20k garanteret 33dollars, kl 11.00

#1| 0

Hej

Staker tre til ovenst tour kl 11.00.

Normal deal (50/50 - minus indskud)

Link til OPR foretrækkes.

Hold vælges ml 10.30 - 10.45


/henrik

18-12-2008 09:41 #2| 0

er frisk nick bt191985

blev nr 7 i eastgate for en anden staker.

18-12-2008 09:42 #3| 0

ved at pakke de sidste gaver ind, dette lyder dog klart mere spændende.

Live21

18-12-2008 09:44 #4| 0

Jeg er frisk nurse.
MrPingo.

QPR: officialpokerrankings.com/pokerstars/MrPingo/poker/results/D36DC5253AD841F2B9BF816B36EB4EDA.html?t=2

18-12-2008 09:55 #5| 0

Jeg er klar...

Emsta88

18-12-2008 09:59 #6| 0

Jeg er klar på lidt formiddagspoker..

Nick: lasseth

officialpokerrankings.com/pokerstars/lasseth/poker/results/C690F1781FE249999DB3E0B3CFB23F35.html?t=2

18-12-2008 10:04 #7| 0

Fissan87 er helt klar. blev senest nr 25 for ulle44 i en tunering med 2259

www.officialpokerrankings.com/pokerstars/Fissan87/poker/results/1398DDBC64F245CBACD5D05743C84A5F.html?t=2

18-12-2008 10:06 #8| 0

MrRepsak er klar spiller den uanset hvad.
Skrub tak og GL til holdet

18-12-2008 10:07 #9| 0

og link:

officialpokerrankings.com/pokerstars/MrRepsak/poker/results/3E6FFD4973B048ABBFA3F35AF54811DA.html?t=2

18-12-2008 10:35 #10| 0

Granaten 11 er max klar..

Anyway GL

/G

18-12-2008 10:35 #11| 0

Så er holdet sat

Live21
MrRepsak
Fissan87

Penge er på vej - skriv lige når I er regged.

/henrik

18-12-2008 10:37 #12| 0

GL!

18-12-2008 10:39 #13| 0

Regget Nurse :D idag skal den ned

18-12-2008 10:40 #14| 0

Modtaget og regged.
Tak for staken.
Så ingen Jinx idag, tabte med AA 4 ud af 4 gange igår i multis all in pre flop.

Så må have noget skrub klar :-)

18-12-2008 10:42 #15| 0

God skrub til alle, og gratz med staken igår Henrik :)

18-12-2008 10:43 #16| 0

@bis

takker - og der er jo altid plads til dig på holdet!!!.

/henrik

18-12-2008 10:47 #17| 0

@nurse

Sidder i skolen lige nu, så det er nok ikke så +EV :P.
Men tillykke med Simon igår, satme nice han tog den ned - og tillykke med dine egne super resultater - må siges at have været en god dag :)

18-12-2008 10:50 #18| 0

Tror næppe på skrub til dig, de perioder der kan gå længere tid med at gå over!
Tydeligt tegn på en dårlig periode, eller det er måske kun mig som bliver rigget efter at have kommet godt igang, og så ikke kunne vinde over donksene i flere dage?

Anyway GL

18-12-2008 10:53 #19| 0

spiller også med... GL drenge

18-12-2008 11:03 #20| 0

Vandt du på en stake i går Nurse :P Dælme en god dag for dig så :D

18-12-2008 11:03 #22| 0

skidt første hånd, det var ren impuls jeg fik kaldt limpet fra utg, skal selvfølgelig bare kyles ud, se vinder hånden der reraiser pre og better hele vejen

PokerStars Game #23024401494: Tournament #127000940, $30+$3 Hold'em No Limit - Level I (10/20) - 2008/12/18 11:00:00 CET [2008/12/18 5:00:00 ET]
Table '127000940 75' 9-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 2: piggles (3000 in chips) is sitting out
Seat 3: lasombra96 (3000 in chips)
Seat 4: SIHAFI (3000 in chips)
Seat 5: weisy8 (3000 in chips)
Seat 6: Live21 (3000 in chips)
Seat 7: modou2 (3000 in chips)
Seat 8: CO NASTY70 (3000 in chips)
Seat 9: ShortItalian (3000 in chips) is sitting out
lasombra96: posts small blind 10
SIHAFI: posts big blind 20
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Live21 [Qc Ah]
weisy8: calls 20
Live21: calls 20
modou2: folds
piggles has returned
CO NASTY70: calls 20
ShortItalian: folds
piggles: raises 40 to 60
lasombra96: folds
SIHAFI: calls 40
weisy8: calls 40
Live21: calls 40
CO NASTY70: calls 40
*** FLOP *** [2h Tc Ts]
SIHAFI: checks
weisy8: checks
Live21: checks
CO NASTY70: checks
piggles: bets 100
SIHAFI: folds
weisy8: folds
Live21: folds
CO NASTY70: calls 100
*** TURN *** [2h Tc Ts] [3s]
CO NASTY70: checks
piggles: checks
*** RIVER *** [2h Tc Ts 3s] [6s]
CO NASTY70: checks
piggles: bets 320
CO NASTY70: calls 320
*** SHOW DOWN ***
piggles: shows [5s 2s] (a flush, Ten high)
CO NASTY70: mucks hand
piggles collected 1150 from pot
Live21 said, "lol"
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 1150 | Rake 0
Board [2h Tc Ts 3s 6s]
Seat 2: piggles (button) showed [5s 2s] and won (1150) with a flush, Ten high
Seat 3: lasombra96 (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 4: SIHAFI (big blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 5: weisy8 folded on the Flop
Seat 6: Live21 folded on the Flop
Seat 7: modou2 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: CO NASTY70 mucked [4c 4h]
Seat 9: ShortItalian folded before Flop (didn't bet)

18-12-2008 11:03 #21| 0

første hånd

PokerStars Game #23024401459: Tournament #127000940, $30+$3 Hold'em No Limit - Level I (10/20) - 2008/12/18 11:00:00 CET [2008/12/18 5:00:00 ET]
Table '127000940 47' 9-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 2: poockha (3000 in chips)
Seat 3: wildone111 (3000 in chips)
Seat 4: Harleyka79 (3000 in chips)
Seat 5: efedro (3000 in chips)
Seat 6: benj hamza (3000 in chips)
Seat 7: MrRepsak (3000 in chips)
Seat 8: feebeee (3000 in chips)
wildone111: posts small blind 10
Harleyka79: posts big blind 20
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to MrRepsak [6d Ac]
efedro: folds
benj hamza: calls 20
MrRepsak: folds
feebeee: folds
poockha: folds
wildone111: folds
Harleyka79: checks
*** FLOP *** [8c Kc Qd]
Harleyka79: checks
benj hamza: bets 40
Katerberg84 is connected
Harleyka79: folds
Uncalled bet (40) returned to benj hamza
benj hamza collected 50 from pot
benj hamza: doesn't show hand
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 50 | Rake 0
Board [8c Kc Qd]
Seat 2: poockha (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: wildone111 (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 4: Harleyka79 (big blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 5: efedro folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: benj hamza collected (50)
Seat 7: MrRepsak folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: feebeee folded before Flop (didn't bet)

Held og lykke!

18-12-2008 11:04 #23| 0

@Fissan

shp2000 herfra shippede en 40$ 5kgtd 6max tour i en stake :).

18-12-2008 11:07 #24| 0

nice.. hva gav sådan en bette tur så? :D

18-12-2008 11:10 #27| 0

1300 til os hver, så det var jo skønt.

/henrik

18-12-2008 11:10 #26| 0

arg han limp caller alle pots..

PokerStars Game #23024477595: Tournament #127000940, $30+$3 Hold'em No Limit - Level I (10/20) - 2008/12/18 11:07:40 CET [2008/12/18 5:07:40 ET]
Table '127000940 47' 9-max Seat #7 is the button
Seat 1: prrrak4783 (3000 in chips)
Seat 2: poockha (2430 in chips)
Seat 3: wildone111 (2690 in chips)
Seat 4: Harleyka79 (3380 in chips)
Seat 5: efedro (3660 in chips)
Seat 6: benj hamza (2890 in chips)
Seat 7: MrRepsak (2970 in chips)
Seat 8: feebeee (2980 in chips)
Seat 9: Katerberg84 (3000 in chips)
feebeee: posts small blind 10
Katerberg84: posts big blind 20
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to MrRepsak [7d 7h]
prrrak4783: folds
poockha: folds
wildone111: calls 20
Harleyka79: folds
efedro: folds
benj hamza: folds
MrRepsak: raises 60 to 80
feebeee: folds
Katerberg84: calls 60
wildone111: calls 60
*** FLOP *** [8h 6h Ac]
Katerberg84: checks
wildone111: checks
MrRepsak: bets 200
Katerberg84: folds
wildone111: calls 200
*** TURN *** [8h 6h Ac] [3c]
wildone111: checks
MrRepsak: bets 400
wildone111: calls 400
*** RIVER *** [8h 6h Ac 3c] [Kd]
wildone111: checks
wildone111 said, "go on"
MrRepsak: checks
*** SHOW DOWN ***
wildone111: shows [Ah 7c] (a pair of Aces)
MrRepsak: mucks hand
wildone111 collected 1450 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 1450 | Rake 0
Board [8h 6h Ac 3c Kd]
Seat 1: prrrak4783 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: poockha folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: wildone111 showed [Ah 7c] and won (1450) with a pair of Aces
Seat 4: Harleyka79 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: efedro folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: benj hamza folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: MrRepsak (button) mucked [7d 7h]
Seat 8: feebeee (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 9: Katerberg84 (big blind) folded on the Flop


skidt start

18-12-2008 11:10 #25| 0

@Fissan

Uden at vide det er mit bud omkring 2-2.5k$ :)

18-12-2008 11:14 #28| 0

morning boys, så har man sovet for længe igen igen :) GL boys, fede resultater i går Nurse, grats

18-12-2008 11:16 #29| 0

PokerStars Game #23024493925: Tournament #127000940, $30+$3 Hold'em No Limit - Level I (10/20) - 2008/12/18 11:09:15 CET [2008/12/18 5:09:15 ET]
Table '127000940 47' 9-max Seat #8 is the button
Seat 1: prrrak4783 (3000 in chips)
Seat 2: poockha (2430 in chips)
Seat 3: wildone111 (3460 in chips)
Seat 4: Harleyka79 (3380 in chips)
Seat 5: efedro (3660 in chips)
Seat 6: benj hamza (2890 in chips)
Seat 7: MrRepsak (2290 in chips)
Seat 8: feebeee (2970 in chips)
Seat 9: Katerberg84 (2920 in chips)
Katerberg84: posts small blind 10
prrrak4783: posts big blind 20
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to MrRepsak [8s As]
poockha: folds
wildone111: calls 20
Harleyka79: raises 60 to 80
efedro: folds
benj hamza: folds
MrRepsak: calls 80
feebeee: folds
Katerberg84: folds
prrrak4783: calls 60
wildone111: calls 60
*** FLOP *** [8c 4s 7d]
prrrak4783: bets 200
wildone111: calls 200
Harleyka79: folds
MrRepsak: calls 200
*** TURN *** [8c 4s 7d] [Td]
prrrak4783: bets 620
wildone111: calls 620
MrRepsak: folds
*** RIVER *** [8c 4s 7d Td] [Ah]
prrrak4783: bets 850
wildone111: folds
Uncalled bet (850) returned to prrrak4783
prrrak4783 collected 2170 from pot
prrrak4783: doesn't show hand
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 2170 | Rake 0
Board [8c 4s 7d Td Ah]
Seat 1: prrrak4783 (big blind) collected (2170)
Seat 2: poockha folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: wildone111 folded on the River
Seat 4: Harleyka79 folded on the Flop
Seat 5: efedro folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: benj hamza folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: MrRepsak folded on the Turn
Seat 8: feebeee (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: Katerberg84 (small blind) folded before Flop


Arg...

Og så lige AA uden betaling efter jeg havde raiset AQ hånden inden er i 2200

18-12-2008 11:17 #30| 0

@otten

Og jeg sendte dig endda en SMS ;-)

/henrik

18-12-2008 11:23 #31| 0

skal dog ikke klage når AA holder 1 ud af 5...

Og vinder lige mindre pot med AA igen..

Kunne godt give lidt mere så activ jeg har været med de kort..
2500

18-12-2008 11:24 #32| 0

ligger stille og roligt med 2785.. har ikke rigtig fået nogle kort :S

18-12-2008 11:25 #33| 0

spiller af lort. og skal ha strammet en del op, hånden væk fra musen så sådanne fejl ik bliver lavet.

3600 chips

PokerStars Game #23024625203: Tournament #127000940, $30+$3 Hold'em No Limit - Level II (15/30) - 2008/12/18 11:21:54 CET [2008/12/18 5:21:54 ET]
Table '127000940 75' 9-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: maxasso (4775 in chips)
Seat 2: piggles (6270 in chips) is sitting out
Seat 3: lasombra96 (4725 in chips)
Seat 4: SIHAFI (3020 in chips)
Seat 5: weisy8 (2490 in chips)
Seat 6: Live21 (2781 in chips)
Seat 7: Waters1877 (6276 in chips)
Seat 8: CO NASTY70 (2370 in chips)
Seat 9: ShortItalian (2925 in chips) is sitting out
piggles: posts small blind 15
lasombra96: posts big blind 30
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Live21 [Ts Ac]
SIHAFI: folds
weisy8: folds
Live21: raises 60 to 90
Waters1877: folds
CO NASTY70: calls 90
ShortItalian: folds
maxasso: calls 90
piggles: folds
lasombra96: calls 60
*** FLOP *** [Ks 4s 6s]
lasombra96: checks
Live21: bets 120
CO NASTY70: calls 120
maxasso: folds
lasombra96: folds
*** TURN *** [Ks 4s 6s] [As]
Live21: checks
CO NASTY70: bets 180
Live21: calls 180
*** RIVER *** [Ks 4s 6s As] [8h]
Live21: checks
CO NASTY70: bets 270
Live21: calls 270
*** SHOW DOWN ***
CO NASTY70: shows [9s 9c] (a flush, Ace high)
Live21: shows [Ts Ac] (a flush, Ace high - Ten higher)
Live21 collected 1515 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 1515 | Rake 0
Board [Ks 4s 6s As 8h]
Seat 1: maxasso (button) folded on the Flop
Seat 2: piggles (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 3: lasombra96 (big blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 4: SIHAFI folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: weisy8 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: Live21 showed [Ts Ac] and won (1515) with a flush, Ace high
Seat 7: Waters1877 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: CO NASTY70 showed [9s 9c] and lost with a flush, Ace high
Seat 9: ShortItalian folded before Flop (didn't bet)

18-12-2008 11:28 #34| 0

en femmer havde været alt for lækker..
PokerStars Game #23024670243: Tournament #127000940, $30+$3 Hold'em No Limit - Level II (15/30) - 2008/12/18 11:26:13 CET [2008/12/18 5:26:13 ET]
Table '127000940 47' 9-max Seat #6 is the button
Seat 1: prrrak4783 (4150 in chips)
Seat 2: poockha (2310 in chips)
Seat 3: wildone111 (2265 in chips)
Seat 4: Harleyka79 (5810 in chips)
Seat 5: efedro (3405 in chips)
Seat 6: benj hamza (3200 in chips)
Seat 7: MrRepsak (2445 in chips)
Seat 8: feebeee (2925 in chips)
Seat 9: Katerberg84 (490 in chips)
MrRepsak: posts small blind 15
feebeee: posts big blind 30
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to MrRepsak [5d 5c]
Katerberg84: raises 460 to 490 and is all-in
prrrak4783: folds
poockha: calls 490
wildone111: folds
Harleyka79: folds
efedro: folds
benj hamza: calls 490
MrRepsak: calls 475
feebeee: calls 460
*** FLOP *** [7h Qc 2s]
MrRepsak: checks
feebeee: checks
poockha: checks
benj hamza: bets 660
MrRepsak: folds
feebeee: folds
poockha: calls 660
*** TURN *** [7h Qc 2s] [4c]
poockha: checks
benj hamza: bets 2050 and is all-in
poockha: calls 1160 and is all-in
Uncalled bet (890) returned to benj hamza
*** RIVER *** [7h Qc 2s 4c] [Qd]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
poockha: shows [2d 2c] (a full house, Deuces full of Queens)
benj hamza: shows [Js Qs] (three of a kind, Queens)
poockha collected 3640 from side pot
Katerberg84: shows [Tc Ad] (a pair of Queens)
poockha collected 2450 from main pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 6090 Main pot 2450. Side pot 3640. | Rake 0
Board [7h Qc 2s 4c Qd]
Seat 1: prrrak4783 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: poockha showed [2d 2c] and won (6090) with a full house, Deuces full of Queens
Seat 3: wildone111 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: Harleyka79 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: efedro folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: benj hamza (button) showed [Js Qs] and lost with three of a kind, Queens
Seat 7: MrRepsak (small blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 8: feebeee (big blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 9: Katerberg84 showed [Tc Ad] and lost with a pair of Queens

18-12-2008 11:32 #35| 0

de der to x aa uden action må betyde de har haft rimelig dårlige hænder .. Caller med kq off lol

PokerStars Game #23024717303: Tournament #127000940, $30+$3 Hold'em No Limit - Level III (25/50) - 2008/12/18 11:30:45 CET [2008/12/18 5:30:45 ET]
Table '127000940 47' 9-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: prrrak4783 (4315 in chips)
Seat 2: poockha (6120 in chips)
Seat 3: wildone111 (2205 in chips)
Seat 4: Harleyka79 (6335 in chips)
Seat 5: efedro (3285 in chips)
Seat 6: benj hamza (890 in chips)
Seat 7: MrRepsak (1955 in chips)
Seat 8: feebeee (2375 in chips)
Seat 9: booth10 (2160 in chips)
wildone111: posts small blind 25
Harleyka79: posts big blind 50
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to MrRepsak [Kh Js]
efedro: folds
benj hamza: raises 840 to 890 and is all-in
MrRepsak: folds
feebeee: folds
booth10: calls 890
prrrak4783: folds
poockha: folds
wildone111: folds
Harleyka79: folds
*** FLOP *** [2c 8s 9d]
*** TURN *** [2c 8s 9d] [9c]
*** RIVER *** [2c 8s 9d 9c] [Ah]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
benj hamza: shows [As Td] (two pair, Aces and Nines)
booth10: shows [Kd Qh] (a pair of Nines)
benj hamza collected 1855 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 1855 | Rake 0
Board [2c 8s 9d 9c Ah]
Seat 1: prrrak4783 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: poockha (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: wildone111 (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 4: Harleyka79 (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 5: efedro folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: benj hamza showed [As Td] and won (1855) with two pair, Aces and Nines
Seat 7: MrRepsak folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: feebeee folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: booth10 showed [Kd Qh] and lost with a pair of Nines

18-12-2008 11:33 #36| 0

Spiller så højt for at hitte en 5 i floppet?
Seriøst, det er pinligt?

18-12-2008 11:34 #37| 0

min første rigtige hånd

PokerStars Game #23024740410: Tournament #127000940, $30+$3 Hold'em No Limit - Level III (25/50) - 2008/12/18 5:32:56 ET
Table '127000940 33' 9-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: kokeflores (1865 in chips)
Seat 2: alonso88 (7250 in chips) out of hand (moved from another table into small blind)
Seat 3: papilyon (7100 in chips)
Seat 4: DeeDub19 (9010 in chips)
Seat 5: ZADOM77 (2325 in chips)
Seat 6: TurnRiva (4010 in chips)
Seat 7: truckie paul (4210 in chips)
Seat 8: Fissan87 (2650 in chips)
Seat 9: boogery (3415 in chips)
papilyon: posts small blind 25
DeeDub19: posts big blind 50
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Fissan87 [8d 8h]
ZADOM77: folds
TurnRiva: calls 50
truckie paul: folds
Fissan87: calls 50
boogery: folds
kokeflores: raises 50 to 100
papilyon: folds
DeeDub19: folds
TurnRiva: calls 50
Fissan87: calls 50
*** FLOP *** [Td 6s 2c]
TurnRiva: checks
Fissan87: checks
kokeflores: bets 150
TurnRiva: folds
Fissan87: calls 150
*** TURN *** [Td 6s 2c] [Kh]
Fissan87: checks
kokeflores: bets 200
Fissan87: calls 200
*** RIVER *** [Td 6s 2c Kh] [7d]
Fissan87: checks
kokeflores: bets 300
Fissan87: calls 300
*** SHOW DOWN ***
kokeflores: shows [4h 4c] (a pair of Fours)
Fissan87: shows [8d 8h] (a pair of Eights)
Fissan87 collected 1675 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 1675 | Rake 0
Board [Td 6s 2c Kh 7d]
Seat 1: kokeflores (button) showed [4h 4c] and lost with a pair of Fours
Seat 3: papilyon (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 4: DeeDub19 (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 5: ZADOM77 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: TurnRiva folded on the Flop
Seat 7: truckie paul folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: Fissan87 showed [8d 8h] and won (1675) with a pair of Eights
Seat 9: boogery folded before Flop (didn't bet)

18-12-2008 11:38 #38| 0

Dealt to MrRepsak [5d 5c]
Katerberg84: raises 460 to 490 and is all-in
prrrak4783: folds
poockha: calls 490
wildone111: folds
Harleyka79: folds
efedro: folds
benj hamza: calls 490
MrRepsak: calls 475

?

18-12-2008 11:39 #39| 0

Ingen ville med :(

PokerStars Game #23024795673: Tournament #127000940, $30+$3 Hold'em No Limit - Level III (25/50) - 2008/12/18 5:38:15 ET
Table '127000940 33' 9-max Seat #5 is the button
Seat 1: kokeflores (965 in chips)
Seat 2: alonso88 (8125 in chips)
Seat 3: papilyon (7075 in chips)
Seat 4: DeeDub19 (8060 in chips)
Seat 5: ZADOM77 (2250 in chips) is sitting out
Seat 6: TurnRiva (3860 in chips)
Seat 7: truckie paul (4560 in chips)
Seat 8: Fissan87 (3525 in chips)
Seat 9: boogery (3415 in chips)
TurnRiva: posts small blind 25
truckie paul: posts big blind 50
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Fissan87 [Qs Qh]
Fissan87: calls 50
boogery: calls 50
kokeflores: calls 50
alonso88: raises 300 to 350
papilyon: folds
DeeDub19: folds
ZADOM77: folds
TurnRiva: folds
truckie paul: calls 300
Fissan87: raises 3175 to 3525 and is all-in
boogery: folds
kokeflores: folds
alonso88: folds
truckie paul: folds
Uncalled bet (3175) returned to Fissan87
Fissan87 collected 1175 from pot
Fissan87: doesn't show hand
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 1175 | Rake 0
Seat 1: kokeflores folded before Flop
Seat 2: alonso88 folded before Flop
Seat 3: papilyon folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: DeeDub19 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: ZADOM77 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: TurnRiva (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 7: truckie paul (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 8: Fissan87 collected (1175)
Seat 9: boogery folded before Flop

fik posted forkert hånd :S

18-12-2008 11:39 #40| 0

MrNoller kommer i næsten 8k vis jeg rammer i situationen, rimelig gode implied odds ved dette bord, men kan heller ikke betales igen..

Irriterende flops vs bordets donk..

PokerStars Game #23024771468: Tournament #127000940, $30+$3 Hold'em No Limit - Level III (25/50) - 2008/12/18 11:35:55 CET [2008/12/18 5:35:55 ET]
Table '127000940 47' 9-max Seat #9 is the button
Seat 1: prrrak4783 (4265 in chips)
Seat 2: poockha (6345 in chips)
Seat 3: wildone111 (2085 in chips)
Seat 4: Harleyka79 (6700 in chips)
Seat 5: efedro (3285 in chips)
Seat 6: benj hamza (1755 in chips)
Seat 7: MrRepsak (2030 in chips)
Seat 8: feebeee (2130 in chips)
Seat 9: booth10 (1045 in chips)
prrrak4783: posts small blind 25
poockha: posts big blind 50
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to MrRepsak [Jh Js]
wildone111: calls 50
Harleyka79: folds
efedro: folds
benj hamza: calls 50
MrRepsak: raises 250 to 300
feebeee: folds
booth10: folds
prrrak4783: folds
poockha: folds
wildone111: folds
benj hamza: calls 250
*** FLOP *** [Ac Tc Th]
benj hamza: bets 1455 and is all-in
feebeee is sitting out
MrRepsak: folds
Uncalled bet (1455) returned to benj hamza
MrRepsak said, "jj"
benj hamza collected 725 from pot
benj hamza: shows [9c Qc] (a pair of Tens)
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 725 | Rake 0
Board [Ac Tc Th]
Seat 1: prrrak4783 (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 2: poockha (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 3: wildone111 folded before Flop
Seat 4: Harleyka79 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: efedro folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: benj hamza collected (725)
Seat 7: MrRepsak folded on the Flop
Seat 8: feebeee folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: booth10 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)

18-12-2008 11:43 #41| 0

Det er da fuldstændigt ligegyldigt, hvis du smider så meget free cash væk næsten. Så giver det der ik overskud i længden!
Du ved at der kommer 2-3 over kort nok jo, og med et par folk med. Så hitter de nok. No Value!

Prøv og kom ned på jorden igen, ellers er din ROI jo bare rent lotto !

18-12-2008 11:45 #42| 0

sigh, sorry m8, satme ik meget skrub, overvejede at flatte river, men synes der var meget villain ville betale et skub med som jeg slår i dette spot, syg turn og endnu sygere river. hans turn check snød mig, og rammer det eneste kort i billeten jeg kan gå broke på.

kan nok diskuteres om man skal defende blinds her, men han har raiset min blind hver gang han har haft mulighed for det.

PokerStars Game #23024844347: Tournament #127000940, $30+$3 Hold'em No Limit - Level III (25/50) - 2008/12/18 11:42:52 CET [2008/12/18 5:42:52 ET]
Table '127000940 75' 9-max Seat #4 is the button
Seat 1: maxasso (1270 in chips)
Seat 2: piggles (6105 in chips) is sitting out
Seat 3: lasombra96 (5765 in chips)
Seat 4: SIHAFI (4655 in chips)
Seat 5: weisy8 (5055 in chips)
Seat 6: Live21 (2786 in chips)
Seat 7: Waters1877 (5236 in chips) is sitting out
Seat 8: CO NASTY70 (1985 in chips)
Seat 9: ShortItalian (2775 in chips) is sitting out
weisy8: posts small blind 25
Live21: posts big blind 50
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Live21 [9c 7s]
Waters1877: folds
CO NASTY70: folds
ShortItalian: folds
maxasso: folds
piggles: folds
lasombra96: raises 100 to 150
SIHAFI: folds
weisy8: folds
Live21: calls 100
*** FLOP *** [A[] J J]
Live21: checks
lasombra96: checks
*** TURN *** [Ac Jc Jh] [T]
Live21: checks
lasombra96: checks
*** RIVER *** [Ac Jc Jh Ts] [s]
Live21: bets 200
lasombra96: raises 600 to 800
Live21: raises 1836 to 2636 and is all-in
lasombra96: calls 1836
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Live21: shows [9c 7s] (a straight, Seven to Jack)
lasombra96: shows [Th Tc] (a full house, Tens full of Jacks)
lasombra96 collected 5597 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 5597 | Rake 0
Board [Ac Jc Jh Ts 8s]
Seat 1: maxasso folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: piggles folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: lasombra96 showed [Th Tc] and won (5597) with a full house, Tens full of Jacks
Seat 4: SIHAFI (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: weisy8 (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 6: Live21 (big blind) showed [9c 7s] and lost with a straight, Seven to Jack
Seat 7: Waters1877 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: CO NASTY70 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: ShortItalian folded before Flop (didn't bet)

18-12-2008 11:46 #43| 0

PokerStars Game #23024868818: Tournament #127000940, $30+$3 Hold'em No Limit - Level IV (50/100) - 2008/12/18 5:45:12 ET
Table '127000940 33' 9-max Seat #3 is the button
Seat 1: JablesB (14295 in chips)
Seat 2: alonso88 (15175 in chips)
Seat 3: ginori (1810 in chips)
Seat 4: DeeDub19 (9025 in chips)
Seat 5: ZADOM77 (2100 in chips)
Seat 6: TurnRiva (3360 in chips)
Seat 7: truckie paul (3510 in chips)
Seat 8: Fissan87 (4350 in chips)
Seat 9: boogery (4465 in chips)
DeeDub19: posts small blind 50
ZADOM77: posts big blind 100
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Fissan87 [Qh Qs]
TurnRiva: folds
truckie paul: folds
Fissan87: raises 300 to 400
boogery: calls 400
JablesB: folds
alonso88: folds
ginori: folds
DeeDub19: folds
ZADOM77: folds
*** FLOP *** [7h Ts 6s]
Fissan87: bets 800
boogery: folds
Uncalled bet (800) returned to Fissan87
Fissan87 collected 950 from pot
Fissan87: doesn't show hand
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 950 | Rake 0
Board [7h Ts 6s]
Seat 1: JablesB folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: alonso88 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: ginori (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: DeeDub19 (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 5: ZADOM77 (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 6: TurnRiva folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: truckie paul folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: Fissan87 collected (950)
Seat 9: boogery folded on the Flop


har qq igen lige nu

18-12-2008 11:47 #44| 0

og self rammer man ind i AA

PokerStars Game #23024876281: Tournament #127000940, $30+$3 Hold'em No Limit - Level IV (50/100) - 2008/12/18 5:45:54 ET
Table '127000940 33' 9-max Seat #4 is the button
Seat 1: JablesB (14295 in chips)
Seat 2: alonso88 (15175 in chips)
Seat 3: ginori (1810 in chips)
Seat 4: DeeDub19 (8975 in chips)
Seat 5: ZADOM77 (2000 in chips)
Seat 6: TurnRiva (3360 in chips)
Seat 7: truckie paul (3510 in chips)
Seat 8: Fissan87 (4900 in chips)
Seat 9: boogery (4065 in chips)
ZADOM77: posts small blind 50
TurnRiva: posts big blind 100
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Fissan87 [Qd Qh]
truckie paul: folds
Fissan87: calls 100
boogery: raises 300 to 400
JablesB: folds
alonso88: folds
ginori: folds
DeeDub19 has timed out while being disconnected
DeeDub19: folds
DeeDub19 is sitting out
ZADOM77: folds
TurnRiva: calls 300
truckie paul is disconnected
Fissan87: raises 4500 to 4900 and is all-in
DeeDub19 is disconnected
boogery: calls 3665 and is all-in
TurnRiva: folds
Uncalled bet (835) returned to Fissan87
DeeDub19 is connected
*** FLOP *** [2c 4h Kh]
DeeDub19 has returned
*** TURN *** [2c 4h Kh] [Th]
*** RIVER *** [2c 4h Kh Th] [5h]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Fissan87: shows [Qd Qh] (a flush, King high)
boogery: shows [Ah Ad] (a flush, Ace high)
boogery collected 8580 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 8580 | Rake 0
Board [2c 4h Kh Th 5h]
Seat 1: JablesB folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: alonso88 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: ginori folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: DeeDub19 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: ZADOM77 (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 6: TurnRiva (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 7: truckie paul folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: Fissan87 showed [Qd Qh] and lost with a flush, King high
Seat 9: boogery showed [Ah Ad] and won (8580) with a flush, Ace high

18-12-2008 11:48 #45| 0

Mener repsak er spot on imo. Der er allerede smidt 3*call beløbet i potten. Da det er så stort, er folk garanteret ikke færdige med at skyde efter potten, og som der siges, der er nok nogen som rammer et eller andet=implied odds. Det er jo ikke for at udfordre short pusheren i blinde, hvor vi nok har noget der ligner 36% mod hans push range. Det er jo de 2 callere der gør den juicy.

@MrNoller

Kan du ikke uddybe din no value kommentar?

EDIT: Kigger lige stack sizes og level efter i sømmene, og det gør den lidt mere tvivlsom synes jeg. DOg kan der isoleret set argumenteres for, at den betales af stort set hver gang vi rammer!

Mvh. Fryden.

18-12-2008 11:51 #46| 0

lidt oppe igen..

PokerStars Game #23024916413: Tournament #127000940, $30+$3 Hold'em No Limit - Level IV (50/100) - 2008/12/18 5:49:49 ET
Table '127000940 33' 9-max Seat #7 is the button
Seat 1: JablesB (9395 in chips)
Seat 2: alonso88 (20825 in chips)
Seat 3: ginori (1010 in chips)
Seat 4: DeeDub19 (8975 in chips)
Seat 5: ZADOM77 (2600 in chips)
Seat 6: TurnRiva (2910 in chips)
Seat 7: truckie paul (3360 in chips)
Seat 8: Fissan87 (435 in chips)
Seat 9: boogery (8580 in chips)
Fissan87: posts small blind 50
boogery: posts big blind 100
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Fissan87 [9c Qc]
JablesB: folds
alonso88: folds
ginori: calls 100
DeeDub19: folds
ZADOM77: folds
TurnRiva: raises 400 to 500
truckie paul: folds
Fissan87: calls 385 and is all-in
boogery: folds
ginori: raises 510 to 1010 and is all-in
TurnRiva: calls 510
*** FLOP *** [2c 3d Ts]
*** TURN *** [2c 3d Ts] [9h]
*** RIVER *** [2c 3d Ts 9h] [5c]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
ginori: shows [4s 4h] (a pair of Fours)
TurnRiva: shows [3s Ad] (a pair of Threes)
ginori collected 1150 from side pot
Fissan87: shows [9c Qc] (a pair of Nines)
Fissan87 collected 1405 from main pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 2555 Main pot 1405. Side pot 1150. | Rake 0
Board [2c 3d Ts 9h 5c]
Seat 1: JablesB folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: alonso88 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: ginori showed [4s 4h] and won (1150) with a pair of Fours
Seat 4: DeeDub19 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: ZADOM77 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: TurnRiva showed [3s Ad] and lost with a pair of Threes
Seat 7: truckie paul (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: Fissan87 (small blind) showed [9c Qc] and won (1405) with a pair of Nines
Seat 9: boogery (big blind) folded before Flop

18-12-2008 11:54 #47| 0

Du spiller ikke lave par til den der risk, han vil garanti møde rene over kort, og med under 20% chance for at hitte nr. 5 giver det ganske enkelt ingen value!

Vinder chancen er ca. det samme, i min verden ville 89s, være et meget bedre spil. Der får du åbnet op for draws, og kan fange dem bedre. Du har svært ved at fange nogle via. at gå efter en 5 som har under 20% chance.

Men okay, lad ham spille loose. Jeg er da sku da ligeglad, glad for at jeg ik skal stake. Når de spiller sådan!

Svar til frydens edit:

Ja det kan jo sagtens være, men du glemmer stadigvæk at den ik rammer tit!
Han er short, hvorfor så limpe den der istedet for at pushe igennem, når han alligevel er low hvis er så sikker i sin sag?

18-12-2008 11:55 #48| 0

Kan ikke se ideen med 55 heller, som han siger hvis han rammer får han 8k, ja flot, det kan man gøre ved så mange ting, det er sku lidt fisket vil jeg sige.

18-12-2008 11:56 #49| 0

kommentarer til min exit ?

18-12-2008 11:56 #50| 0

Out.. skulle til at skubbe med resten og kunne ikke ramme denne gang :S
tak for stakr Nurse

PokerStars Game #23024961286: Tournament #127000940, $30+$3 Hold'em No Limit - Level IV (50/100) - 2008/12/18 5:54:03 ET
Table '127000940 33' 9-max Seat #3 is the button
Seat 1: JablesB (8945 in chips)
Seat 2: alonso88 (20475 in chips)
Seat 3: ginori (2900 in chips)
Seat 4: DeeDub19 (11275 in chips)
Seat 5: ZADOM77 (2300 in chips)
Seat 6: TurnRiva (3500 in chips)
Seat 7: truckie paul (3360 in chips)
Seat 8: Fissan87 (705 in chips)
Seat 9: boogery (4630 in chips)
DeeDub19: posts small blind 50
ZADOM77: posts big blind 100
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Fissan87 [Kc Jc]
TurnRiva: folds
truckie paul: raises 100 to 200
Fissan87: raises 505 to 705 and is all-in
boogery: folds
JablesB: folds
alonso88: folds
ginori: calls 705
DeeDub19: folds
ZADOM77: folds
truckie paul: calls 505
*** FLOP *** [2d 4s Tc]
truckie paul: checks
ginori: bets 300
truckie paul: folds
Uncalled bet (300) returned to ginori
*** TURN *** [2d 4s Tc] [9s]
*** RIVER *** [2d 4s Tc 9s] [4d]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Fissan87: shows [Kc Jc] (a pair of Fours)
ginori: shows [7d 7h] (two pair, Sevens and Fours)
ginori collected 2265 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 2265 | Rake 0
Board [2d 4s Tc 9s 4d]
Seat 1: JablesB folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: alonso88 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: ginori (button) showed [7d 7h] and won (2265) with two pair, Sevens and Fours
Seat 4: DeeDub19 (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 5: ZADOM77 (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 6: TurnRiva folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: truckie paul folded on the Flop
Seat 8: Fissan87 showed [Kc Jc] and lost with a pair of Fours
Seat 9: boogery folded before Flop (didn't bet)

18-12-2008 11:56 #51| 0

Jamen fryden vi jo enige, såvel om pokeren som om fodbolden, i hveritlfald denne gang..

Ikke lige den hånd jeg troede han havde men fint nok:

PokerStars Game #23024923281: Tournament #127000940, $30+$3 Hold'em No Limit - Level IV (50/100) - 2008/12/18 11:50:28 CET [2008/12/18 5:50:28 ET]
Table '127000940 47' 9-max Seat #5 is the button
Seat 1: prrrak4783 (4090 in chips)
Seat 2: poockha (2810 in chips)
Seat 3: wildone111 (1020 in chips)
Seat 4: Harleyka79 (3530 in chips)
Seat 5: efedro (7700 in chips)
Seat 7: MrRepsak (2730 in chips)
Seat 8: feebeee (5290 in chips)
Seat 9: booth10 (2470 in chips)
MrRepsak: posts small blind 50
feebeee: posts big blind 100
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to MrRepsak [Qh Kh]
booth10: folds
prrrak4783: folds
poockha: raises 200 to 300
wildone111: folds
Harleyka79: folds
efedro: folds
ethnical is connected
MrRepsak: calls 250
feebeee: folds
*** FLOP *** [8c Qc Qd]
MrRepsak: checks
poockha: bets 400
MrRepsak: calls 400
*** TURN *** [8c Qc Qd] [6d]
MrRepsak: checks
poockha: checks
*** RIVER *** [8c Qc Qd 6d] [Jc]
MrRepsak: bets 750
poockha: calls 750
*** SHOW DOWN ***
MrRepsak: shows [Qh Kh] (three of a kind, Queens)
poockha: mucks hand
MrRepsak collected 3000 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 3000 | Rake 0
Board [8c Qc Qd 6d Jc]
Seat 1: prrrak4783 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: poockha mucked [6s Js]
Seat 3: wildone111 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: Harleyka79 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: efedro (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: MrRepsak (small blind) showed [Qh Kh] and won (3000) with three of a kind, Queens
Seat 8: feebeee (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 9: booth10 folded before Flop (didn't bet)

18-12-2008 11:58 #53| 0

Men med blinds 15/30, ser jeg ingen andre hænder end AK+ som er spilbare.
Dog vil jeg foretrække at limpe i ny og næ med small pp.

18-12-2008 11:58 #52| 0

I runde tal skal han smide 500 i en 2000 pot. Da du er så (korrekt) forhippet på de farlige overkort, siger vi at bare een betaler hans sidste 2000 af når han rammer. Så er det 500 for at nappe 6000. Det er 1:12. Chancen for at ramme er cirka 1:8,5. Stadig no value, ren lotto, jeg er sgu da ligeglad osv?

Som jeg har edited ovenfor er den ikke oplagt, men kan forsvares, bare for ikke at være alt for kategorisk :)

Mvh. Fryden.

18-12-2008 11:59 #54| 0

Jeg synes det er okay du caller der, det er ikke det største beløb live jo. Det er ik til at vide da du har straight at han sidder med fuldt hus, der kommer de gange hvor man føler sig 100% sikker, og så ryger kaninen op af hatten.
Mulighederne for at han sad med A Q var der self. også bl.a :)

18-12-2008 12:01 #55| 0

@Noller

Ja det kan jo sagtens være, men du glemmer stadigvæk at den ik rammer tit! (1:8,5 contra 1:12 som ovenfor? Eller er ikke tit=fold, punktum?

Han er short, hvorfor så limpe den der istedet for at pushe igennem, når han alligevel er low hvis er så sikker i sin sag? (Han skal jo først ind hvis han rammer. 55 spiller skidt mod overkort (cirka 50%) eller overpar (cirka 20%) som må formodes at være de to calleres holdings!

Mvh. Fryden.

18-12-2008 12:03 #56| 0

Synes ikke den kan forsvars, det er ikke godt spillet!
I min verden minder det mig om alverdens donks, som jeg har tabt til i tidens løb, som ikke kan laye et low pocket pair

18-12-2008 12:04 #57| 0

Egentlig meget god diskussion med den 55 for synes det handler meget om bordet og om man forventer de andre i potten stacker en af. Samtidig er min stack også i det mindste af hvor man kan forsvare det, og nok lidt for lille. Nu er blinds højere og tror ikke samme situation opstår igen.
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18-12-2008 12:05 #58| 0

@Florczak

SOm jeg skriver er den nok marginal så tidligt (der skal selvfølgelig korrigeres for at beskytte atack), men matematisk:

'Kan ikke se ideen med 55 heller, som han siger hvis han rammer får han 8k, ja flot, det kan man gøre ved så mange ting, det er sku lidt fisket vil jeg sige.'

500 for at vinde 8000 (eller blot 6000 som jeg eksemplificerer ovenfor) er jo matematisk i heros favør.

Mvh. Fryden.

18-12-2008 12:07 #59| 0

Jamen fryden, så er det jo donk move alligevel hvis der formodes 2 over par?
Glem det nu ik lige at de også kan hitte deres pocket pair, stadig væk dårlig move + de er langt foran!
Hvorfor så riske over 20% af sin stack, når man har max 20 % for at vinde så?
Valuen er stadigvæk der ikke :)

18-12-2008 12:07 #60| 0

@Noller

'I min verden minder det mig om alverdens donks, som jeg har tabt til i tidens løb, som ikke kan laye et low pocket pair'

Han KAN jo netop laye den, da han ikke rammer sit set value. Modsat at pushe den som du siger han lige så godt kan, hvilket ville være et forfærdeligt spil!

Mvh. Fryden.

18-12-2008 12:08 #62| 0

Der er formodet overkort/-par. Oftere overkort, og sandsynligheden for overset når vi rammer er meget, meget lille. Den ændrer ikke på der er value.

Læg dog mærke til jeg ikke siger call anyday, men forsvarer den klare matematiske value.

Mvh. Fryden.

18-12-2008 12:08 #61| 0

Synes jeg nu ikke, hvis han vurderer at han vil fremad?
At spille sig selv low via. små % er dumt, istedet for at pushe til en direkte 50 50 istedet så :)

18-12-2008 12:10 #63| 0

Hmmm, du læser ikke hvad jeg skriver nu. Push er 50/50 i din bog? Når man så godt som altid er oppe mod 50% eller 20% er det langt fra fifty-fifty.

Du siger overpar når det gavner din argumentation, og overkort når det er bedre. Prøv at læs det hele grundigt igennem.

Mvh. Fryden.

18-12-2008 12:13 #64| 0

Fryden, det gør det jo ikke?
% siger imod, og når % er under værdien, så er det dårligt spil.
Og hvornår er man så presset, føler man sig presset hvis man ligger lidt under sin start stack efter 30 min af ca.

Det synes jeg nu ikke, og der er stadig tid til få bedre hænder :)

18-12-2008 12:14 #65| 0

Forklar lige hvad det er for % der under værdien. Jeg har givet mit regnestykke længere oppe.

Du kan ikke bare sige 20% af stakken, under 20% chance for hit. Så er det dårligt. Så er der simpelthen noget du ikke har forstået. (EDIT: nemlig implied odds. Hvad han smider pre, og hvad han formodes at vinde når han rammer. Contra chancen for hit (cirka 11,75%)

Mvh. Fryden.

18-12-2008 12:17 #66| 0

Det kaldes pot odds?
- Det er okay at tage chancer, men hvorfor tage halv dyre chancer når man ikke er presset?

Desuden skal man tænke over hvordan man spiller fra andres penge, men dog vil jeg stadig sige det er ik det ringeste spil. Synes bare stadig værdien ik helt er der til at spille :)

18-12-2008 12:18 #67| 0

Tja synes nu det går fint med arkumulere chips på trods af det 500 chips tab med 55. Og kunne jo have fået MANGE chips..
status 5800 efter lidt pos bet og cont bet..

18-12-2008 12:21 #69| 0

Fryden -> Hvis oddsene skal stemme ens med forventningen for et hit på ca. 12%, skal han ikke have smidt 20% af stacken.
Et mindre bet ville have været okay, men ligefrem så meget?

18-12-2008 12:21 #68| 0

Se nu nærmer vi hinanden. Pot odds er ikke helt det samme som implied odds.

Som jeg har sagt, er det ikke et autocall i min bog, men et som matematisk kan forsvares. Det er vel et spørgsmål om dels hvor tight/loose man vil angribe starten af en tour. Og så vurdering af værdien af de chips man taber når man ikke rammer. Nu ved jeg repsak er en habil tourspiller, så han kan en hel del med de resterende 2000 chips.

Personligt spiller jeg varieret, så i nogle tours bliver den kaldt og andre droppet. Jeg vil til enhver tid sige du er way off, når du kalder det et lotto/donk move. Når du siger loose er jeg noget mere lydhør :)

Mvh. Fryden.

18-12-2008 12:23 #70| 0

Noller, du er altså way off dér. Der handler ikke blot om hans stack, men om hvad han kan vinde... Og der ligger jo allerede en hel del chips i potten (pot odds), samt mine ovenstående argumenter om der kommer mere i potten (implied odds)

Mvh. Fryden.

18-12-2008 12:24 #71| 0

Oddsene er ikke de 500 i forhold til hans stack, men i forhold til den endelige (forventede) gevinst når han rammer.

18-12-2008 12:26 #72| 0

Det tror jeg næppe du skal sige, det handler om hvor meget du går ind for at kunne vinde også. Du kan ik bare cute indskudet væk, du tager en ting af gangen. Hvis du bare spiller efter hvad du kan vinde, uden og tænke over oddsene i preflop og hvad de andre sidder med, så risikerer man dumme ting :)

18-12-2008 12:29 #74| 0

Fryden han blive jo fanget på floppet hvis han ikke hitter, der bliver tvivlen sat jo. Han kan ik sætte en forventning om at han går hele vejen, men skal tænke om værdien kan rammes på floppet også :)

18-12-2008 12:29 #73| 0

Tager du pis på mig? For så dropper jeg det nu :)

Mvh. Fryden.

Hvis ikke, så læs mine ovenstående indlæg. Det er dig som kun kigger på een ting. Jeg har de 500 i call med i alle udregninger.

Hvis du ikke bare laver gas, så har du vist lidt misforstået pot odds, og meget misforstået implied odds.

18-12-2008 12:33 #75| 0

Jeg gasser skam ikke, jeg ved bare at værdien i sidste ende var der jo slet ikke, hverken på floppet eller til river ;)

Du kan ikke bare lave fiktive tal midt i det hele, når du ik ved om de kommer :)
Du kan holde dig ud fra en start % i pre til floppet og i sidste om det er værd at gå med. Du kan ik sige, hvis jeg nu går med 500 og rammer en 12% chance. Så er han dæmme i problemer der hvis han ik rammer :)


18-12-2008 12:40 #76| 0

MrNoller fryden er altå spot on hvad angår "implied odds". At det er marginalt er er der stadig implied value. Virker som om du ikke forstår betydningen men tænker alt for firkantet.

Kunne godt lige bruge aa & kk med betaling :-)
Raisede aj lige før og fik AI i hovedet..

18-12-2008 12:47 #77| 0

SKRUB aa vinder igen.
Meget ufarligt flop og vil gerne få ham til at fejle.
PokerStars Game #23025507490: Tournament #127000940, $30+$3 Hold'em No Limit - Level VII (125/250) - 2008/12/18 12:44:43 CET [2008/12/18 6:44:43 ET]
Table '127000940 41' 9-max Seat #9 is the button
Seat 1: tonttoM (3115 in chips)
Seat 2: paulitschMC (6105 in chips)
Seat 3: annodv (4070 in chips)
Seat 4: dominoe239 (8155 in chips)
Seat 5: rizlas (3890 in chips)
Seat 6: MrRepsak (6680 in chips)
Seat 7: dengod (9050 in chips)
Seat 8: Brrwwwa (9182 in chips)
Seat 9: JAKQJAKQ (8363 in chips)
tonttoM: posts the ante 25
paulitschMC: posts the ante 25
annodv: posts the ante 25
dominoe239: posts the ante 25
rizlas: posts the ante 25
MrRepsak: posts the ante 25
dengod: posts the ante 25
Brrwwwa: posts the ante 25
JAKQJAKQ: posts the ante 25
tonttoM: posts small blind 125
paulitschMC: posts big blind 250
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to MrRepsak [Ac Ad]
annodv: folds
dominoe239: calls 250
rizlas: folds
MrRepsak: raises 550 to 800
dengod: folds
Brrwwwa: folds
JAKQJAKQ: folds
tonttoM: folds
paulitschMC: folds
dominoe239: calls 550
*** FLOP *** [5h 5s 2c]
dominoe239: checks
MrRepsak: checks
*** TURN *** [5h 5s 2c] [9h]
dominoe239: bets 750
MrRepsak: raises 1750 to 2500
dominoe239: raises 4830 to 7330 and is all-in
MrRepsak: calls 3355 and is all-in
Uncalled bet (1475) returned to dominoe239
*** RIVER *** [5h 5s 2c 9h] [Qs]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
dominoe239: shows [9s 7s] (two pair, Nines and Fives)
MrRepsak: shows [Ac Ad] (two pair, Aces and Fives)
MrRepsak collected 13910 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 13910 | Rake 0
Board [5h 5s 2c 9h Qs]
Seat 1: tonttoM (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 2: paulitschMC (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 3: annodv folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: dominoe239 showed [9s 7s] and lost with two pair, Nines and Fives
Seat 5: rizlas folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: MrRepsak showed [Ac Ad] and won (13910) with two pair, Aces and Fives
Seat 7: dengod folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: Brrwwwa folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: JAKQJAKQ (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)

18-12-2008 12:50 #78| 0

MrNoller 18-12-2008 12:29
Fryden han blive jo fanget på floppet hvis han ikke hitter, der bliver tvivlen sat jo. Han kan ik sætte en forventning om at han går hele vejen, men skal tænke om værdien kan rammes på floppet også :)

MrNoller 18-12-2008 12:33
Jeg gasser skam ikke, jeg ved bare at værdien i sidste ende var der jo slet ikke, hverken på floppet eller til river ;)

Du kan ikke bare lave fiktive tal midt i det hele, når du ik ved om de kommer :)
Du kan holde dig ud fra en start % i pre til floppet og i sidste om det er værd at gå med. Du kan ik sige, hvis jeg nu går med 500 og rammer en 12% chance. Så er han dæmme i problemer der hvis han ik rammer :)

Går ud fra dine smileys antyder at du alligevel joker.

Jeg stopper her under henvisning til adskillige ovenstående indlæg.

Du spiller jo ikke selv højt eller med overskud. Og dine slutninger er helt hen i vejret. Prøv bare at tænk dybere over en a la 'når du ikke ved om den kommer'...!!! Det ved man aldrig, og her kommer matematikken ind i billedet.

Mvh. Fryden.

18-12-2008 12:52 #79| 0

Jeg faster holder i at jeg har ret, og så er jeg ligeglad med om implied odds kan blive gode. Men at risikerer og tabe 3-4 i træk på det der. Og så når du hitter alligevel, så har du ik tjent ret meget på det alligevel !

18-12-2008 12:52 #80| 0

Jinxed.. Farlig blind duel med nasty turn

PokerStars Game #23025547850: Tournament #127000940, $30+$3 Hold'em No Limit - Level VII (125/250) - 2008/12/18 12:48:13 CET [2008/12/18 6:48:13 ET]
Table '127000940 41' 9-max Seat #5 is the button
Seat 1: tonttoM (2890 in chips)
Seat 2: paulitschMC (6230 in chips)
Seat 3: annodv (3595 in chips)
Seat 5: rizlas (6265 in chips)
Seat 6: MrRepsak (13835 in chips)
Seat 7: dengod (8700 in chips)
Seat 8: Brrwwwa (9082 in chips)
Seat 9: JAKQJAKQ (8013 in chips)
tonttoM: posts the ante 25
paulitschMC: posts the ante 25
annodv: posts the ante 25
rizlas: posts the ante 25
MrRepsak: posts the ante 25
dengod: posts the ante 25
Brrwwwa: posts the ante 25
JAKQJAKQ: posts the ante 25
MrRepsak: posts small blind 125
dengod: posts big blind 250
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to MrRepsak [3h Th]
Brrwwwa: folds
JAKQJAKQ: folds
tonttoM: folds
paulitschMC: folds
annodv: folds
rizlas: folds
MrRepsak: raises 500 to 750
dengod: calls 500
*** FLOP *** [5d 9d 3s]
MrRepsak: checks
dengod: bets 1000
MrRepsak: calls 1000
*** TURN *** [5d 9d 3s] [Td]
MrRepsak: checks
dengod: bets 1000
yama920 is connected
MrRepsak: raises 11060 to 12060 and is all-in
dengod: calls 5925 and is all-in
Uncalled bet (5135) returned to MrRepsak
*** RIVER *** [5d 9d 3s Td] [5c]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
MrRepsak: shows [3h Th] (two pair, Tens and Fives)
dengod: shows [7d 4d] (a flush, Ten high)
dengod collected 17550 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 17550 | Rake 0
Board [5d 9d 3s Td 5c]
Seat 1: tonttoM folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: paulitschMC folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: annodv folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: rizlas (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: MrRepsak (small blind) showed [3h Th] and lost with two pair, Tens and Fives
Seat 7: dengod (big blind) showed [7d 4d] and won (17550) with a flush, Ten high
Seat 8: Brrwwwa folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: JAKQJAKQ folded before Flop (didn't bet)


og så denne av av

PokerStars Game #23025561486: Tournament #127000940, $30+$3 Hold'em No Limit - Level VII (125/250) - 2008/12/18 12:49:23 CET [2008/12/18 6:49:23 ET]
Table '127000940 41' 9-max Seat #6 is the button
Seat 1: tonttoM (2865 in chips)
Seat 2: paulitschMC (6205 in chips)
Seat 3: annodv (3570 in chips)
Seat 4: yama920 (9310 in chips)
Seat 5: rizlas (6240 in chips)
Seat 6: MrRepsak (5135 in chips)
Seat 7: dengod (17550 in chips)
Seat 8: Brrwwwa (9057 in chips)
Seat 9: JAKQJAKQ (7988 in chips)
tonttoM: posts the ante 25
paulitschMC: posts the ante 25
annodv: posts the ante 25
yama920: posts the ante 25
rizlas: posts the ante 25
MrRepsak: posts the ante 25
dengod: posts the ante 25
Brrwwwa: posts the ante 25
JAKQJAKQ: posts the ante 25
dengod: posts small blind 125
Brrwwwa: posts big blind 250
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to MrRepsak [Jh Js]
MrRepsak said, "vnh"
JAKQJAKQ: folds
tonttoM: folds
paulitschMC: folds
annodv: raises 500 to 750
yama920: folds
rizlas: folds
MrRepsak: raises 4360 to 5110 and is all-in
dengod: folds
Brrwwwa: folds
annodv: calls 2795 and is all-in
Uncalled bet (1565) returned to MrRepsak
*** FLOP *** [7s Th Qh]
*** TURN *** [7s Th Qh] [Ks]
*** RIVER *** [7s Th Qh Ks] [6h]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
annodv: shows [Qc Qd] (three of a kind, Queens)
MrRepsak: shows [Jh Js] (a pair of Jacks)
annodv collected 7690 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 7690 | Rake 0
Board [7s Th Qh Ks 6h]
Seat 1: tonttoM folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: paulitschMC folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: annodv showed [Qc Qd] and won (7690) with three of a kind, Queens
Seat 4: yama920 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: rizlas folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: MrRepsak (button) showed [Jh Js] and lost with a pair of Jacks
Seat 7: dengod (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 8: Brrwwwa (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 9: JAKQJAKQ folded before Flop (didn't bet)


Haft så mange blind dueller så meget svær at komme væk fra på turn..Damn den skulle have været i mucken...

PokerStars Game #23025561486: Tournament #127000940, $30+$3 Hold'em No Limit - Level VII (125/250) - 2008/12/18 12:49:23 CET [2008/12/18 6:49:23 ET]
Table '127000940 41' 9-max Seat #6 is the button
Seat 1: tonttoM (2865 in chips)
Seat 2: paulitschMC (6205 in chips)
Seat 3: annodv (3570 in chips)
Seat 4: yama920 (9310 in chips)
Seat 5: rizlas (6240 in chips)
Seat 6: MrRepsak (5135 in chips)
Seat 7: dengod (17550 in chips)
Seat 8: Brrwwwa (9057 in chips)
Seat 9: JAKQJAKQ (7988 in chips)
tonttoM: posts the ante 25
paulitschMC: posts the ante 25
annodv: posts the ante 25
yama920: posts the ante 25
rizlas: posts the ante 25
MrRepsak: posts the ante 25
dengod: posts the ante 25
Brrwwwa: posts the ante 25
JAKQJAKQ: posts the ante 25
dengod: posts small blind 125
Brrwwwa: posts big blind 250
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to MrRepsak [Jh Js]
MrRepsak said, "vnh"
JAKQJAKQ: folds
tonttoM: folds
paulitschMC: folds
annodv: raises 500 to 750
yama920: folds
rizlas: folds
MrRepsak: raises 4360 to 5110 and is all-in
dengod: folds
Brrwwwa: folds
annodv: calls 2795 and is all-in
Uncalled bet (1565) returned to MrRepsak
*** FLOP *** [7s Th Qh]
*** TURN *** [7s Th Qh] [Ks]
*** RIVER *** [7s Th Qh Ks] [6h]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
annodv: shows [Qc Qd] (three of a kind, Queens)
MrRepsak: shows [Jh Js] (a pair of Jacks)
annodv collected 7690 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 7690 | Rake 0
Board [7s Th Qh Ks 6h]
Seat 1: tonttoM folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: paulitschMC folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: annodv showed [Qc Qd] and won (7690) with three of a kind, Queens
Seat 4: yama920 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: rizlas folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: MrRepsak (button) showed [Jh Js] and lost with a pair of Jacks
Seat 7: dengod (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 8: Brrwwwa (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 9: JAKQJAKQ folded before Flop (didn't bet)

18-12-2008 12:58 #81| 0

3600 efter a10 vs 78..
Får blinds med 88
og taber med floppet par i blinds hvor turn bringer 789-10 board.

status 3500 var ellers sjovt at have 10k +..

18-12-2008 12:59 #82| 0

@MrNoller

Bare i orden :)

@repsak

GL, du får vist brug for det nu :s

18-12-2008 13:01 #84| 0

tja... håber man kan tage ned..
PokerStars Game #23025673753: Tournament #127000940, $30+$3 Hold'em No Limit - Level VIII (150/300) - 2008/12/18 12:58:57 CET [2008/12/18 6:58:57 ET]
Table '127000940 75' 9-max Seat #3 is the button
Seat 1: jam2493 (19204 in chips)
Seat 2: piggles (2255 in chips) is sitting out
Seat 3: lasombra96 (5057 in chips)
Seat 4: SIHAFI (2444 in chips)
Seat 5: weisy8 (3584 in chips)
Seat 6: xxxmarkxx (20623 in chips)
Seat 7: xThiZZ_KiDx (10373 in chips)
Seat 8: CO NASTY70 (7390 in chips)
Seat 9: MrRepsak (3555 in chips)
jam2493: posts the ante 25
piggles: posts the ante 25
lasombra96: posts the ante 25
SIHAFI: posts the ante 25
weisy8: posts the ante 25
xxxmarkxx: posts the ante 25
xThiZZ_KiDx: posts the ante 25
CO NASTY70: posts the ante 25
MrRepsak: posts the ante 25
SIHAFI: posts small blind 150
weisy8: posts big blind 300
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to MrRepsak [Qc Jd]
xxxmarkxx: folds
xThiZZ_KiDx: folds
CO NASTY70: folds
MrRepsak: raises 550 to 850
jam2493: folds
piggles: folds
lasombra96: folds
SIHAFI: folds
weisy8: calls 550
*** FLOP *** [2h Qh As]
weisy8: checks
MrRepsak: bets 1500
weisy8: raises 1209 to 2709 and is all-in
MrRepsak: calls 1180 and is all-in
Uncalled bet (29) returned to weisy8
*** TURN *** [2h Qh As] [Kc]
*** RIVER *** [2h Qh As Kc] [2c]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
weisy8: shows [Jh Ad] (two pair, Aces and Deuces)
MrRepsak: shows [Qc Jd] (two pair, Queens and Deuces)
weisy8 collected 7435 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 7435 | Rake 0
Board [2h Qh As Kc 2c]
Seat 1: jam2493 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: piggles folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: lasombra96 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: SIHAFI (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 5: weisy8 (big blind) showed [Jh Ad] and won (7435) with two pair, Aces and Deuces
Seat 6: xxxmarkxx folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: xThiZZ_KiDx folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: CO NASTY70 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: MrRepsak showed [Qc Jd] and lost with two pair, Queens and Deuces


øv øv Mange tak for stake.. Så skidt med den 18.000 pot i blind duel.. så et uppet med jj vs qq

18-12-2008 13:01 #83| 0

UNDERSKUD?
Ja på lorte stars, men vi snakker underskud på 400-500 kr. i alt?
- Det gør ik mig så meget, så det overlever jeg nok :)



18-12-2008 13:02 #85| 0

Den der var så ik dumt spillet, når man er low er alle de høje par generelt 100% spilbart, bare uheldigt at han sidder med Q Q ;)

18-12-2008 13:05 #86| 0

Det var bestemt hverken for at håne dig eller dit spil! (al respekt for at lære fra bunden) Mere for at antyde, at du nok har meget at lære i dit spil endnu. Lige som jeg selv i dén grad har.

18-12-2008 13:08 #87| 0

Jeg siger ik jeg er perfekt fryden, men siger bare at hvis man gå ud fra value i %, så er den jo ik vildt højt. Self. er impleid odds noget andet, men jeg går efter chancen for at man blive favorit på floppet :)
Og hvis værdien er i bund, så vil jeg ik spille det (:

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