Broadway hands og suitede cons.

#1| 0

Jeg har stadig ikke så mange hænder i min Pokartracker, men allerede nu danner der sig et meget tydeligt mønster.
Min top-10 over hænder jeg taber flest $ på er:
1. ATo
2. AQo
3. AJo
4. QJo
5. T8s
6. 22
7. AJs
8. A7o
10. Q8s
Tager man BB/hand ser listen sådan her ud.
1. AJs
2. 65s (synes ikke den tæller, da jeg tabte 2½ buy-in på suckout riverboat)
3. T8s
4. 64s
5. Q8s
6. 22
7. 98s
8. T6s
9. AQo
10. QTs

Det hele tyder altså på, at jeg især har store problemer med at spille broadway hands og 1-gappet cons.

Mit eget bud er især, at jeg er alt for glad for at ramme esset på floppet, og ikke folder til reraise. Spørgsmålet er så, om jeg kan lære det, eller om jeg bare skal undgå overhovedet at spille dem.

Jeg overspiller sandsynligvis også 1-gappers, men her er problemet nok nærmere, at jeg ikke kan folde, når min 64s 98s osv. rammer flushen. Har flere gange tabt stakken mod overflush. Er det et spot man nemt kan lære at folde i? Dvs. at made flush skal have langt mindre værdi end made straight.

Den store forskel er dog, at jeg også har en del suitede connectors i top-20, men kun en enkelt broady hand KQs, som jo i virkeligheden også er en suited connector :)

Hvordan spiller forummet broadway hands og suitede conectors? Skal jeg bare acceptere, at jeg ikke magter dem, og mucke pre?

MVH. Skod

07-11-2008 05:09 #2| 0

Hm, jeg tror det nemmeste er at poste hænder hvor du taber meget på disse typer - det er svært at hjælpe dig med så generelt et problem!

07-11-2008 06:22 #3| 0

Hvis du begynder at droppe hænder med value bare fordi du mener de er svære at spille bliver det umluligt at blive vindene.

07-11-2008 14:53 #4| 0
OP

Hey.
Nu tror jeg ikke lige, at der er så mange af de hænder tråden omhandler, men jeg poster alligevel et udpluk af dagens hænder i den her tråd.
De er forøvrigt de samme, som jeg har lagt i en ny tråd idag.

Jeg har samlet en håndfuld interessante hænder fra dagens session. Nogle af dem er muligvis meget standard, men jeg er interesseret i alle konstruktive kommentarer.
Spilleren hasuGrunt havde jeg en del clinches med. Han spiller LAG, og 3-4 better light, og har flere gange foldet til et 5-bet.
Han virker dygtig.

***** Hand History for Game 7517947957 *****
$200 USD NL Texas Hold\'em - Friday, November 07, 13:31:43 CET 2008
Table Table 126811 (No DP) (Real Money)
Seat 1 is the button
Total number of players : 6
Seat 3: FAIROAK50 ( $157.31 USD )
Seat 5: JustAGame85 ( $212 USD )
Seat 6: basel2222 ( $30.86 USD )
Seat 1: Hero ( $211.05 USD )
Seat 2: Pajala20 ( $209.10 USD )
Seat 4: CRAZYBANANAZ ( $202.90 USD )
Pajala20 posts small blind [$1 USD].
FAIROAK50 posts big blind [$2 USD].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Hero [ 5 K ]
CRAZYBANANAZ folds
JustAGame85 folds
Hero raises [$7 USD]
Pajala20 folds
FAIROAK50 calls [$5 USD]
** Dealing Flop ** [ 5, 4, K ]
FAIROAK50 checks
Hero bets [$11 USD]
FAIROAK50 calls [$11 USD]
** Dealing Turn ** [ 3 ]
FAIROAK50 checks
Hero bets [$33 USD]
FAIROAK50 calls [$33 USD]
** Dealing River ** [ 6 ]
FAIROAK50 checks
Hero bets [$66 USD]
FAIROAK50 calls [$66 USD]
Hero shows [ 5, K ]two pairs, Kings and Fives.
FAIROAK50 shows [ 6, 6 ]three of a kind, Sixes.
FAIROAK50 wins $233 USD from the main pot with three of a kind, Sixes.

***** Hand History for Game 7517952184 *****
$200 USD NL Texas Hold\'em - Friday, November 07, 13:34:25 CET 2008
Table Table 126811 (No DP) (Real Money)
Seat 5 is the button
Total number of players : 6
Seat 3: FAIROAK50 ( $294.17 USD )
Seat 5: JustAGame85 ( $222.95 USD )
Seat 6: basel2222 ( $0 USD )
Seat 1: Hero ( $198 USD )
Seat 2: Pajala20 ( $208.10 USD )
Seat 4: CRAZYBANANAZ ( $200 USD )
Hero posts small blind [$1 USD].
Pajala20 posts big blind [$2 USD].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Hero [ Q Q ]
FAIROAK50 raises [$8 USD]
CRAZYBANANAZ folds
JustAGame85 folds
Hero raises [$23 USD]
Pajala20 folds
FAIROAK50 raises [$42 USD]
Hero is all-In [$174 USD]
FAIROAK50 calls [$148 USD]
** Dealing Flop ** [ 2, 4, T ]
** Dealing Turn ** [ 4 ]
** Dealing River ** [ 6 ]
FAIROAK50 shows [ A, A ]two pairs, Aces and Fours.
Hero doesn\'t show [ Q, Q ]two pairs, Queens and Fours.
FAIROAK50 wins $396 USD from the main pot with two pairs, Aces and Fours.

***** Hand History for Game 7518009352 *****
$200 USD NL Texas Hold\'em - Friday, November 07, 14:10:19 CET 2008
Table Speed #1381884 (No DP) (Real Money)
Seat 2 is the button
Total number of players : 6
Seat 1: hasuGrunt ( $495 USD )
Seat 2: Hero ( $278 USD )
Seat 3: pushing72o ( $212.50 USD )
Seat 4: IRaiseYorMuM ( $200 USD )
Seat 6: LadySwan_ ( $200 USD )
Seat 5: SEAT1OPEN ( $100 USD )
pushing72o posts small blind [$1 USD].
IRaiseYorMuM posts big blind [$2 USD].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Hero [ J J ]
SEAT1OPEN folds
LadySwan_ folds
hasuGrunt raises [$8 USD]
Hero raises [$24 USD]
pushing72o folds
IRaiseYorMuM folds
hasuGrunt raises [$57 USD]
Hero is all-In [$254 USD]
hasuGrunt folds
Hero does not show cards.
Hero wins $346 USD


***** Hand History for Game 7518012545 *****
$200 USD NL Texas Hold\'em - Friday, November 07, 14:12:17 CET 2008
Table Speed #1381884 (No DP) (Real Money)
Seat 6 is the button
Total number of players : 6
Seat 1: hasuGrunt ( $434 USD )
Seat 2: Hero ( $346 USD )
Seat 3: pushing72o ( $211.50 USD )
Seat 4: IRaiseYorMuM ( $200 USD )
Seat 6: LadySwan_ ( $200 USD )
Seat 5: SEAT1OPEN ( $100 USD )
hasuGrunt posts small blind [$1 USD].
Hero posts big blind [$2 USD].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Hero [ Q 9 ]
pushing72o folds
IRaiseYorMuM folds
SEAT1OPEN folds
LadySwan_ folds
hasuGrunt raises [$7 USD]
Hero calls [$6 USD]
** Dealing Flop ** [ 8, J, 2 ]
hasuGrunt checks
Hero bets [$12 USD]
hasuGrunt raises [$36 USD]
Hero calls [$24 USD]
** Dealing Turn ** [ K ]
hasuGrunt bets [$60 USD]
Hero calls [$60 USD]
** Dealing River ** [ 2 ]
hasuGrunt checks
Hero bets [$100 USD]
hasuGrunt calls [$100 USD]
Hero shows [ Q, 9 ]a pair of Twos.
hasuGrunt shows [ J, 7 ]two pairs, Jacks and Twos.
hasuGrunt wins $405 USD from the main pot with two pairs, Jacks and Twos.

***** Hand History for Game 7518014991 *****
$200 USD NL Texas Hold\'em - Friday, November 07, 14:13:42 CET 2008
Table Table 126811 (No DP) (Real Money)
Seat 1 is the button
Total number of players : 6
Seat 1: Hero ( $286.95 USD )
Seat 6: PapioPapio ( $0 USD )
Seat 5: AHoneyman ( $249.34 USD )
Seat 3: oneboda ( $226 USD )
Seat 4: Waul_Murf ( $298.32 USD )
Seat 2: little_queen ( $88 USD )
little_queen posts small blind [$1 USD].
oneboda posts big blind [$2 USD].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Hero [ A A ]
PapioPapio has left the table.
Waul_Murf folds
AHoneyman calls [$2 USD]
Hero raises [$9 USD]
little_queen folds
oneboda folds
AHoneyman calls [$7 USD]
** Dealing Flop ** [ 4, 2, 7 ]
Roberscheut has joined the table.
AHoneyman checks
Hero bets [$15 USD]
AHoneyman calls [$15 USD]
** Dealing Turn ** [ 2 ]
AHoneyman checks
Hero bets [$33 USD]
AHoneyman calls [$33 USD]
** Dealing River ** [ Q ]
AHoneyman checks
Hero bets [$111 USD]
AHoneyman folds
Hero does not show cards.
Hero wins $226 USD

***** Hand History for Game 7518027378 *****
$200 USD NL Texas Hold\'em - Friday, November 07, 14:21:06 CET 2008
Table Speed #1381884 (No DP) (Real Money)
Seat 2 is the button
Total number of players : 6
Seat 1: hasuGrunt ( $628.05 USD )
Seat 2: Hero ( $202 USD )
Seat 3: pushing72o ( $200 USD )
Seat 4: IRaiseYorMuM ( $223.15 USD )
Seat 5: SEAT1OPEN ( $107.45 USD )
Seat 6: LadySwan_ ( $238 USD )
pushing72o posts small blind [$1 USD].
IRaiseYorMuM posts big blind [$2 USD].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Hero [ A 3 ]
SEAT1OPEN folds
LadySwan_ raises [$7 USD]
hasuGrunt folds
Hero raises [$21 USD]
pushing72o folds
IRaiseYorMuM folds
LadySwan_ folds
Hero does not show cards.
Hero wins $31 USD

***** Hand History for Game 7518048840 *****
$200 USD NL Texas Hold\'em - Friday, November 07, 14:33:32 CET 2008
Table Table 126811 (No DP) (Real Money)
Seat 1 is the button
Total number of players : 6
Seat 1: Hero ( $392.25 USD )
Seat 2: little_queen ( $83.45 USD )
Seat 4: Jappestein ( $150 USD )
Seat 5: AHoneyman ( $242.34 USD )
Seat 6: johansen133 ( $200 USD )
Seat 3: Todobejo ( $149.79 USD )
little_queen posts small blind [$1 USD].
Todobejo posts big blind [$2 USD].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Hero [ T T ]
Jappestein folds
AHoneyman folds
johansen133 calls [$2 USD]
Hero raises [$10 USD]
little_queen folds
Todobejo folds
johansen133 calls [$8 USD]
** Dealing Flop ** [ 6, 9, 3 ]
johansen133 bets [$10 USD]
Hero raises [$33 USD]
johansen133 raises [$46 USD]
Hero calls [$23 USD]
** Dealing Turn ** [ 6 ]
johansen133 is all-In [$134 USD]
Hero calls [$134 USD]
** Dealing River ** [ 5 ]
johansen133 shows [ 8, J ]a pair of Sixes.
Hero shows [ T, T ]two pairs, Tens and Sixes.
Hero wins $400 USD from the main pot with two pairs, Tens and Sixes.
Bring it on, og på forhånd tak for hjælpen.
MVH Skod.

07-11-2008 15:19 #5| 0

K5, QQ & JJ hænderne er fuldstændig standard.

Q9s er jeg ikke vild med. PF er spillerafhængigt, men givet den korte beskrivelse af villain er det nok okay. Flop kan et 3-bet/call, push turn hvis han kalder linie overvejes, da du med den linie du tager giver initiativet tilbage til ham. Selv hvis i kommer ind på floppet har du sandsynligvis 13 gode outs. Turn bliver lidt meh, da du liner meget hvad du er, og dermed ikke nødvendigvis har implied til et turn call.
Givet din linie er der ikke mange made hands i din range på river udøver nogle QJ/JT combos måske, så check river bag.

AA er fint, selvom dit riverbet måske er lidt stort, dine tidligere betsizes taget i betragtning.
A3s kan være en fin squuezehånd, meget modstanderafhængigt.

TT hånden - turn er meget read afhængigt om vi profitabelt kan calle. Lead-klik, push turn synes jeg ofte er en meget stærk linie, så man skal ikke være for fin til at folde turn mod nogle modstandertyper. At bordet parrer og han alligevel skubber hælder den mod et call, da mange villains ikke skubber huset imo.

Derudover et par gode råd - post hænder enkeltvis, hav reads/stats på, og brug farvekoder.

07-11-2008 16:59 #6| 0
OP

Hejsa igen.
Jeg har lige været igennem pokertracker, for at finde en røvfuld af de broadayhænder jeg har snakket om.

Jeg er udemærket klar over, at det her er en af mine sørste leaks, så har ikke brug for kommentarer ala "fuck du spiller dem ringe muppet", men nærmere."det og det kan dumed fordel ændre på"

Man behøver ikke læse alle hænder, da de minder rigtig meget om hinanden de fleste.

MVH. Skod

***** Hand History for Game 7515124481 *****
$400 USD NL Texas Hold\'em - Thursday, November 06, 04:44:21 CET 2008
Table Table 127929 (No DP) (Real Money)
Seat 6 is the button
Total number of players : 6
Seat 1: Double____Up ( $1,217.87 USD )
Seat 2: Sasha_Russia ( $675.90 USD )
Seat 3: YagamiL ( $532.46 USD )
Seat 4: Hero ( $938.33 USD )
Seat 5: KAK_TY3 ( $58.90 USD )
Seat 6: TAMTAMx ( $90 USD )
Double____Up posts small blind [$2 USD].
Sasha_Russia posts big blind [$4 USD].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Hero [ Q A ]
YagamiL folds
Hero raises [$12 USD]
KAK_TY3 folds
TAMTAMx folds
Double____Up calls [$10 USD]
Sasha_Russia folds
** Dealing Flop ** [ A, 2, 4 ]
>You have options at Table 125491 (No DP) table.
Double____Up checks
Hero bets [$22 USD]
Double____Up raises [$90 USD]
Hero calls [$68 USD]
** Dealing Turn ** [ 7 ]
Double____Up bets [$90 USD]
>You have options at Table 125491 (No DP) table.
Hero calls [$90 USD]
** Dealing River ** [ 6 ]
>You have options at Table 125491 (No DP) table.
Double____Up checks
Hero checks
Double____Up shows [ 2, 2 ]three of a kind, Twos.
Hero doesn\'t show [ Q, A ]a pair of Aces.
Double____Up wins $385 USD from the main pot with three of a kind, Twos.

***** Hand History for Game 7500891629 *****
$200 USD NL Texas Hold\'em - Friday, October 31, 16:42:46 CET 2008
Table Table 125785 (Real Money)
Seat 2 is the button
Total number of players : 6
Seat 1: The_Moss ( $135.20 USD )
Seat 2: JustAGame85 ( $412.53 USD )
Seat 3: bigpnlr ( $142.33 USD )
Seat 5: Hero ( $516.09 USD )
Seat 6: fouf1974 ( $228.70 USD )
Seat 4: pushing72o ( $208.05 USD )
bigpnlr posts small blind [$1 USD].
pushing72o posts big blind [$2 USD].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Hero [ Q A ]
Hero raises [$7 USD]
fouf1974 folds
The_Moss calls [$7 USD]
JustAGame85 calls [$7 USD]
bigpnlr calls [$6 USD]
pushing72o folds
** Dealing Flop ** [ 3, A, 3 ]
bigpnlr checks
Hero bets [$23 USD]
The_Moss raises [$128.19 USD]
JustAGame85 calls [$128.19 USD]
bigpnlr folds
Hero raises [$486.06 USD]
The_Moss is all-In [$0.01 USD]
JustAGame85: so sick
JustAGame85: AA?
JustAGame85 is all-In [$277.34 USD]
** Dealing Turn ** [ 2 ]
** Dealing River ** [ 9 ]
Hero shows [ Q, A ]two pairs, Aces and Threes.
The_Moss doesn\'t show [ A, 7 ]two pairs, Aces and Threes.
JustAGame85 shows [ 3, 5 ]three of a kind, Threes.
Hero wins $103.53 USD from the side pot 2 with two pairs, Aces and Threes with Queen kicker.
JustAGame85 wins $554.66 USD from the side pot 1 with three of a kind, Threes.
JustAGame85 wins $411.60 USD from the main pot with three of a kind, Threes.
>You have options at Table 126832 (No DP) table.

***** Hand History for Game 7500702103 *****
$200 USD NL Texas Hold\'em - Friday, October 31, 15:14:48 CET 2008
Table Table 125785 (Real Money)
Seat 6 is the button
Total number of players : 6
Seat 2: Luckbox2000 ( $140.20 USD )
Seat 3: el_P0RN0 ( $369 USD )
Seat 4: Fatzge03 ( $200 USD )
Seat 6: DonSeppone ( $200 USD )
Seat 5: Hero ( $240.35 USD )
Seat 1: chicken158 ( $48 USD )
chicken158 posts small blind [$1 USD].
Luckbox2000 posts big blind [$2 USD].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Hero [ Q A ]
>You have options at Table 126832 (No DP) table.
el_P0RN0 folds
Fatzge03 raises [$7 USD]
Hero raises [$21 USD]
DonSeppone folds
chicken158 folds
Luckbox2000 folds
Fatzge03 calls [$14 USD]
** Dealing Flop ** [ 4, 4, 5 ]
Fatzge03 checks
Hero bets [$35 USD]
Luckbox2000: SO FU.CKIN SICK
>You have options at Table 126832 (No DP) table.
Fatzge03 calls [$35 USD]
** Dealing Turn ** [ Q ]
>You have options at Table 126832 (No DP) table.
Fatzge03 bets [$66 USD]
>You have options at Table 126832 (No DP) table.
Hero is all-In [$184.35 USD]
Fatzge03 is all-In [$78 USD]
** Dealing River ** [ A ]
Fatzge03 shows [ 5, 5 ]a full house, Fives full of Fours.
Hero shows [ Q, A ]two pairs, Aces and Queens.
Hero wins $40.35 USD from the side pot 1 with two pairs, Aces and Queens.
Fatzge03 wins $400 USD from the main pot with a full house, Fives full of Fours.

***** Hand History for Game 7495944197 *****
$200 USD NL Texas Hold\'em - Wednesday, October 29, 16:58:27 CET 2008
Table Table 127323 (No DP) (Real Money)
Seat 2 is the button
Total number of players : 6
Seat 1: elevenouts ( $243.10 USD )
Seat 3: cskaberbo ( $101.38 USD )
Seat 4: Hero ( $387.20 USD )
Seat 2: zouzakstyle ( $10 USD )
Seat 6: gianik007 ( $172.73 USD )
Seat 5: Wappie__NL ( $225.30 USD )
cskaberbo posts small blind [$1 USD].
Hero posts big blind [$2 USD].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Hero [ A Q ]
Wappie__NL raises [$7 USD]
gianik007 folds
elevenouts calls [$7 USD]
zouzakstyle folds
cskaberbo folds
Hero calls [$5 USD]
** Dealing Flop ** [ 6, Q, 2 ]
Hero bets [$18 USD]
Wappie__NL raises [$41 USD]
elevenouts folds
Hero calls [$23 USD]
** Dealing Turn ** [ T ]
Hero checks
Wappie__NL bets [$69 USD]
>You have options at Jackpot #1306363 table.
Hero calls [$69 USD]
** Dealing River ** [ 7 ]
Hero is all-In [$270.20 USD]
Wappie__NL is all-In [$108.30 USD]
Hero shows [ A, Q ]a pair of Queens.
Wappie__NL shows [ 2, 2 ]three of a kind, Twos.
Hero wins $161.90 USD from the side pot 1 with a pair of Queens.
Wappie__NL wins $455.60 USD from the main pot with three of a kind, Twos.

***** Hand History for Game 7517215827 *****
$200 USD NL Texas Hold\'em - Friday, November 07, 01:43:01 CET 2008
Table Table 126325 (Real Money)
Seat 2 is the button
Total number of players : 6
Seat 6: joiboitoi ( $360.41 USD )
Seat 1: Hero ( $200 USD )
Seat 3: NetCelebrity ( $794.85 USD )
Seat 5: DavoudAA ( $200 USD )
Seat 2: ejay1111 ( $218.10 USD )
Seat 4: DonSeppone ( $209.10 USD )
NetCelebrity posts small blind [$1 USD].
DonSeppone posts big blind [$2 USD].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Hero [ A J ]
DavoudAA folds
Hero raises [$7 USD]
ejay1111 folds
NetCelebrity calls [$6 USD]
DonSeppone folds
** Dealing Flop ** [ A, 3, 5 ]
NetCelebrity checks
Hero bets [$12 USD]
NetCelebrity raises [$36 USD]
Hero raises [$76 USD]
NetCelebrity raises [$104 USD]
Hero is all-In [$105 USD]
NetCelebrity calls [$53 USD]
** Dealing Turn ** [ 5 ]
** Dealing River ** [ 6 ]
NetCelebrity shows [ 3, 3 ]a full house, Threes full of Fives.
Hero doesn\'t show [ A, J ]two pairs, Aces and Fives.
NetCelebrity wins $400 USD from the main pot with a full house, Threes full of Fives.
joiboitoi has left the table.

***** Hand History for Game 7514796018 *****
$200 USD NL Texas Hold\'em - Thursday, November 06, 00:51:17 CET 2008
Table Speed #1381976 (No DP) (Real Money)
Seat 3 is the button
Total number of players : 6
Seat 4: Hero ( $430.88 USD )
Seat 3: fibonacci444 ( $204.96 USD )
Seat 5: NAHSRIK ( $382.93 USD )
Seat 6: true_light ( $206 USD )
Seat 2: olgimak ( $200 USD )
Seat 1: rolanz ( $116.77 USD )
Hero posts small blind [$1 USD].
NAHSRIK posts big blind [$2 USD].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Hero [ A T ]
true_light folds
rolanz calls [$2 USD]
olgimak raises [$9 USD]
fibonacci444 calls [$9 USD]
Hero calls [$8 USD]
NAHSRIK folds
rolanz calls [$7 USD]
** Dealing Flop ** [ Q, A, 7 ]
Hero checks
rolanz checks
olgimak checks
fibonacci444 bets [$36.10 USD]
Hero calls [$36.10 USD]
rolanz folds
olgimak folds
** Dealing Turn ** [ J ]
Hero checks
fibonacci444 checks
** Dealing River ** [ 5 ]
>You have options at Speed #1381884 (No DP) table.
Hero bets [$55 USD]
fibonacci444 is all-In [$159.86 USD]
Hero: anyone but u I would fold
>You have options at Speed #1381884 (No DP) table.
Hero calls [$104.86 USD]
Hero shows [ A, T ]a pair of Aces.
fibonacci444 shows [ 5, J ]two pairs, Jacks and Fives.
fibonacci444 wins $426.92 USD from the main pot with two pairs, Jacks and Fives.

***** Hand History for Game 7512572788 *****
$600 USD NL Texas Hold\'em - Wednesday, November 05, 03:21:35 CET 2008
Table Table 132579 (No DP) (Real Money)
Seat 4 is the button
Total number of players : 5
Seat 5: WowRUJoking ( $886.77 USD )
Seat 2: Hero ( $2,405.23 USD )
Seat 4: stopper5 ( $803.44 USD )
Seat 6: a45fke2 ( $783 USD )
Seat 3: steve54555 ( $513 USD )
WowRUJoking posts small blind [$3 USD].
a45fke2 posts big blind [$6 USD].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Hero [ A T ]
>You have options at Table 127844 (No DP) table.
Hero raises [$21 USD]
steve54555 folds
stopper5 folds
WowRUJoking calls [$18 USD]
>You have options at Table 127844 (No DP) table.
a45fke2 folds
** Dealing Flop ** [ K, A, 9 ]
WowRUJoking bets [$40 USD]
Hero calls [$40 USD]
** Dealing Turn ** [ 7 ]
WowRUJoking bets [$126 USD]
Hero calls [$126 USD]
** Dealing River ** [ 3 ]
WowRUJoking bets [$320 USD]
>You have options at Table 127844 (No DP) table.
Hero calls [$320 USD]
WowRUJoking shows [ A, 9 ]two pairs, Aces and Nines.
Hero doesn\'t show [ A, T ]a pair of Aces.
WowRUJoking wins $1,018 USD from the main pot with two pairs, Aces and Nines.
EBSXXX007 has joined the table.
steve54555 has left the table.

07-11-2008 17:38 #7| 0

Pudsigt. Jeg har også ATo som øverst og AQo samt QJo i min top4. :D

07-11-2008 19:20 #8| 0

Du overspillet super meget dine 1par kombinationer

1 par er imo en ganske marginal hånd. Du giver max value til folk for at setmine, da du ikke slipper dine tp hænder, men du spiller dem derimod alt for aggresivt

Small hand, small pot

Prøv at tag den lidt med ro med disse hænder fremover. Det er meget modstanderafhængigt, hvorvidt du skal jamme den med tp

07-11-2008 20:06 #9| 0
OP

Nu siger du modstanderafhængigt, og det er det jo altid... Har du nogen erfaringer med hvilke typer af spillere man kan gøre det mod?

Jeg vil i hvert fald prøve at ændre det. Burde jo kunne forbedre min win-rate markant, hvis jeg kan skippe bare 5 af de hænder over 10K hænder.

10-11-2008 01:14 #10| 0

Hvis vi mucker disse hyggehænder pre, er det jo alt alt alt for nemt at vide, hvor vi står.. Det er her vi først begynder at tabe pengene, når esserne blir mødt af instafolds preflop, fordi vi er så pisse tight.. Vi skal jo have betaling når vi har noget.. Som Gus har udtalt, han bluffer ikke fordi han mener, at han tjener penge på at bluffe i de enkelte pots, men fordi han har en forventning om, at når han blir taget med nallerne i kagedåsen, får han sig jo også opbygget et tablerep (for Gus er det jo et evigt rep;) for at være lidt for loose/aggressive, hvilket jo egentlig ikke er så skidt for os, når vi skal have fuld betaling for vores billetter.. Og doneres af elendige riverkald af second pair osv.. Men vi skal jo selvfølgelig også prøve som standard at spille tight/aggressive, men det skal kombineres med andre spil for ikke at blive for gennemskuelig.. For da er vi først lette at slå

10-11-2008 01:53 #11| 0

Du giver den alt for meget gas med dine TPGK's. Det er meget exploitable og jeg vil råde dig til at yde lidt potcontrol, såsom at checke turn/river i stedet for at smide stacken ind.

Du må også huske at tænke over, hvad dine modstandere kan have. Din [ A T ] hånd fx:
- Fold preflop. Du er OOP i en 4-way pot og har en ringe multiway-hånd.

- Folder bare på floppet af flere grunde. Din hånd har begrænset værdi og ingen draws. Du er stadig OOP.

- Turn: du er heldig han ikke better igen med sit multidraw nu.

- River checker jeg og caller et bet fra villain, da han kan have flere forskellige draws der er misset. Der er ikke rigtigt noget value at hente ved et bet, og at calle et AI synes jeg virker ret skidt, med mindre du har et super read.

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