Dagens bedste fold m,v

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HAND #1
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Party Poker, $0.50/$1 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 4 Players


BTN: $75.99
SB: $139.10
BB: $100
Hero (UTG): $103.05

Pre-Flop: J♣ J♥ dealt to Hero (UTG)
Hero raises to $4, BTN calls $4, SB calls $3.50, BB calls $3

Flop: ($16) 5♣ 3♥ 2♠ (4 Players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets $11, BTN calls $11, SB folds, BB raises to $33, Hero folds, BTN calls $22

Turn: ($93) 9♦ (2 Players)
BB bets $50, BTN calls $38.99 and is All-In

River: ($170.98) 7♥ (2 Players - 1 is All-In)

Results: $170.98 Pot ($2 Rake)
BTN showed 4♣ A♥ (a straight Ace to Five) and WON $168.98 (+$92.99 NET)
BB showed 3♠ 3♣ (three of a kind, Threes) and LOST (-$75.99 NET)


Dagens bedste fold.


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HAND #2
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Party Poker, $0.50/$1 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 5 Players


SB: $125.84
BB: $65.25
UTG: $76.37
Hero (CO): $101
BTN: $131.35

Pre-Flop: A♥ J♥ dealt to Hero (CO)
UTG raises to $3, Hero raises to $10.50, 2 folds, BB calls $9.50, UTG folds

Flop: ($24.50) J♣ 5♠ Q♠ (2 Players)
BB bets $11, Hero calls $11

Turn: ($46.50) 8♦ (2 Players)
BB bets $43.75 and is All-In, Hero calls $43.75

River: ($134) 2♠ (2 Players - 1 is All-In)

Results: $134 Pot ($2 Rake)
BB showed 8♣ 8♥ (three of a kind, Eights) and WON $132 (+$66.75 NET)
Hero showed A♥ J♥ (a pair of Jacks) and LOST (-$65.25 NET)

Når man ved modstanderen er ude i noget skidt på floppet skal man nok raise næste gang.


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HAND #3
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Party Poker, $0.50/$1 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 2 Players


Hero (SB): $100
BB: $51.04

Pre-Flop: J♦ K♥ dealt to Hero (SB)
BB calls $0.50, Hero raises to $4.50, BB calls $3.50

Flop: ($9) 9♣ 2♥ 3♥ (2 Players)
BB checks, Hero bets $6, BB calls $6

Turn: ($21) J♥ (2 Players)
BB checks, Hero bets $13, BB calls $13

River: ($47) Q♠ (2 Players)
BB bets $18, Hero calls $18

Results: $83 Pot ($1 Rake)
Hero showed J♦ K♥ (a pair of Jacks) and WON $82 (+$40.50 NET)
BB showed 5♠ 4♥ (high card Queen) and LOST (-$41.50 NET)

En klassisker - man better turn i position efter 2 checks fra modstanderen og så byder han ud på overkort på river.


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HAND #4
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Party Poker, $0.50/$1 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 5 Players


Hero (SB): $100
BB: $124.74
UTG: $113.38
CO: $90.39
BTN: $134.18

Pre-Flop: K♦ K♥ dealt to Hero (SB)
UTG raises to $4, CO folds, BTN raises to $13, Hero calls $12.50, 2 folds

Flop: ($31) 5♥ 9♥ 7♥ (2 Players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $21, Hero raises to $87 and is All-In, BTN calls $66

Turn: ($205) 7♣ (2 Players - 1 is All-In)

River: ($205) 6♥ (2 Players - 1 is All-In)

Results: $205 Pot ($2 Rake)
Hero showed K♦ K♥ (a flush, King high) and WON $203 (+$103 NET)
BTN showed J♥ J♠ (a flush, Jack high) and LOST (-$100 NET)

Her havde jeg read på modstanderen om at hans 3-bet betyder enten JJ+/AKs hvilket gjorde det let at spille postflop og ingen grund til at 4-bette preflop da han vil tage det som AA/KK ved mig.
Jeg ved at han better postflop så ingen grund til at være fancy.

Sick! [ ]
Std. [x]

BluffOnly er:

[x] Spot on
[ ] Spot off

Så at du folder et overpair i en multiway pot på NL100$, hvor du bliver check raised& Vilian displayer tremendous strength er dagens laydown?


Den hånd skal alle dage foldes instantly!

Det morsomme er, at hånd 3 er et fold mod langt de fleste.

[ ] of
[x] off

Gramm0 skal være pokerspiller [ ]
Gramm0 skal være dansklærer [x]

[ ] Dansklærer
[x] Engelsklærer

Hehe. Den bad jeg vidst selv om ;)

[x] Fejlen er rettet.
[ ] Fejlen er ikke rettet.

[ ]En masse velspillede hænder
[x]En masse standard hænder...

Det må være som sort of level det her. Du kan ikke seriøst mene at hånd 1 ikke er verdens letteste fold, og at resten ikke er std?

[ ] At bruge "[x]" er kanon, vi ligner slet ikke nogle nørder som efterligner hinanden.

[x] At bruge "[x]" burde forbydes, det ligner lort og dem der fandt på det burde straffes med pisk.

@lyager

I second that.

@powermichael
du mener vel
[x] I second that

Det afhænger vel af meta'et som det kan ses af hånd 4.
Men ellers kommer der lige et par eksempler mere fra denne uge.
Sådan plejer mine modstandere at spille JJ:

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HAND #5
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Party Poker, $0.50/$1 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 5 Players

BB: $346.66
Hero (UTG): $125.10
CO: $152.06
BTN: $124.27
SB: $104.85

Pre-Flop: 5♦ 5♣ dealt to Hero (UTG)
Hero raises to $4, CO raises to $12, 3 folds, Hero calls $8

Flop: ($25.50) 5♥ 2♠ 2♦ (2 Players)
Hero checks, CO bets $15, Hero raises to $38, CO calls $23

Turn: ($101.50) 3♠ (2 Players)
Hero bets $30, CO calls $30

River: ($161.50) T♠ (2 Players)
Hero bets $45.10 and is All-In, CO calls $45.10

Results: $251.70 Pot ($2 Rake)
Hero showed 5♦ 5♣ (a full house, Fives full of Twos) and WON $249.70 (+$124.60 NET)
CO showed J♦ J♣ (two pairs, Jacks and Twos) and LOST (-$125.10 NET)

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HAND #6
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Party Poker, $0.50/$1 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 5 Players

Hero (CO): $100
BTN: $107.44
SB: $38.37
BB: $100
UTG: $68.81

Pre-Flop: K♣ Q♣ dealt to Hero (CO)
UTG calls $1, Hero raises to $5, 2 folds, BB calls $4, UTG calls $4

Flop: ($15.50) 9♠ 3♠ Q♦ (3 Players)
BB checks, UTG checks, Hero bets $11, BB calls $11, UTG calls $11

Turn: ($48.50) Q♠ (3 Players)
BB checks, UTG checks, Hero bets $14, BB calls $14, UTG calls $14

River: ($90.50) 3♥ (3 Players)
BB checks, UTG checks, Hero bets $32, BB calls $32, UTG calls $32

Results: $186.50 Pot ($2 Rake)
Hero showed K♣ Q♣ (a full house, Queens full of Threes) and WON $184.50 (+$122.50 NET)
BB mucked J♠ J♥ (two pairs, Queens and Jacks) and LOST (-$62 NET)
UTG mucked 9♦ A♠ (two pairs, Queens and Nines) and LOST (-$62 NET)

Altså call-stations.

"Hero (CO): $100
BTN: $107.44
SB: $38.37
BB: $100
UTG: $68.81

Pre-Flop: K Q dealt to Hero (CO)
UTG calls $1, Hero raises to $5, 2 folds, BB calls $4, UTG calls $4

Flop: ($15.50) 9 3 Q (3 Players)
BB checks, UTG checks, Hero bets $11, BB calls $11, UTG calls $11

Turn: ($48.50) Q (3 Players)
BB checks, UTG checks, Hero bets $14, BB calls $14, UTG calls $14

River: ($90.50) 3 (3 Players)
BB checks, UTG checks, Hero bets $32, BB calls $32, UTG calls $32

Results: $186.50 Pot ($2 Rake)
Hero showed K Q (a full house, Queens full of Threes) and WON $184.50 (+$122.50 NET)
BB mucked J J (two pairs, Queens and Jacks) and LOST (-$62 NET)
UTG mucked 9 A (two pairs, Queens and Nines) and LOST (-$62 NET)"

[ ] wp

@Samuel

Hvad er det du vil vise med disse standard hænder?

@Phearlezz
[x] Valuebet river. EV>0
[] Gå all-in på river fordi man har 2nd nuts. EV=0.

@Tossen
Hånd 1 er interessant da den kommer til showdown i en situation hvor en preflop aggressor bliver check/raiset på koordineret bord.
Hånd 4+5 er sammenlignelige og viser hvorfor man bør folde JJ på de 3 flops - hvilket de fleste spillere ikke gør på dette niveau.

At hånd 1 er et standardfold er jeg enig i, men derfor er det stadigvæk et godt fold, da jeg har viden nok til at vide at den skal foldes.

Hånd 2 viser et typisk play fra en middelstack der ofte donkbetter og floater flops.
Hånd 3 viser igen et typisk play fra en middlestack der vil tage puljen på river. Havde det været en full stack spiller havde sagen været anderledes.

Hånd 6 viser hvordan man kan valuebette sig til den største EV uden at sætte en middle stack all-in.

Alt i alt nogle hænder jeg synes spillere på dette niveau og evt. lavere niveau kan lære noget af. Dem der ikke kan lære af disse hænder spiller jo alligevel højere takster.

[ ] Man kan godt poste std hænder på pokernet uden at blive flamet

omg lol, indtil den sidste forklarings post sad jeg og lollede over hvor solidt et level det var, men du er jo dybt seriøs. lol forhelvede da, amok stor chef du er!