Deals på final table

Hvis nu man en dag, skulle komme på et FT hvor der kan laves deals, hvordan skal kagen så skæres ?
Tæller man chips og fordeler præcist efter dem, eller.. ??

/ René

Ved det ikke, men man skal i hvert fald ikke gøre det præcis efter chips. Selv om shortstack kun har én chip, vil han nok ikke tage til takke med mindre, end hvad der svarer til 10.-pladsen.

Hvis der kun var to tilbage, ville jeg foreslå, at man tildelte begge, hvad der svarer til andenpladsen, og derefter deler resten i forhold til stacksizes. Man spiller jo reelt kun om forskellen mellem 1.- og 2.-pladsens præmier.
Denne fordelingsnøgle kan vel udvides til flere spillere, men det er ingen nem udregning. Et regneark burde vel kunne gøre det.

@frontal

Man vil jo aldrig kunne få mindre selv om man evt kun sad med 1 chips ...

og udregning efter chipcounts er egentlig ret simpel

Man bruger ikke altid denne metode da nogle spillere mener at de har en edge og vil have en extra bid af kagen da de evt er skrappe til shorthanded spil

Mener f.eks at Theo fik 10K euro oveni da han lavede en deal til en EPT tourna

Spilleren med færrest chips snyder normalt sig selv i en deal. Hovedreglen er, at du skal presse for en chip count deal som big stack (medmindre dine modstandere er super donkeys), mens du skal kræve en bonus hvis du er short.

/Mikael

Laeste det her interview med Lee Nelson idag hvor han bliver spurgt om deal making:

"SB: Do you make deals when you get to these final tables? The book seems to say you shouldn’t but I wondered if you do?

LN: I generally don’t. Let’s say there are three players left and I''m chip leader, and I’ve got 60% of the chips, the rest is split 30% and 10%. And someone says lets make a deal based on percentages and stack size, that’s an overlay for me as chip leader, it turns out. A lot of people don’t think so but the person who’s getting penalised is the person getting 10 %.

If that kind of deal is proposed and I can tweak it a little bit, I can say I’ve got 60%, you’ve only got 30% and 10%, the chances of you getting back are small, so instead of giving me 60% let me have 65. If I can negotiate something like that I’ll do it. If I’m playing against two players I think are quite confident then I would take a deal based on percentage.

I got an offer on one of the final tables at the Aussie Millions where I had the lowest chip stack and they proposed a three-way split! (laughs) So in those circumstances I take it! So to say I never take a deal isn’t true.

But the thing about deals is a three-way deal shouldn’t be linear. A two way deal is. If you and I were playing and you’ve got 60 % and I’ve got 40%, a fair deal is for us to both take second place money, and split the difference 60/40. That’s actually a fair deal. But let’s say there are three of us involved, and its 60%/30%/10%, the person with 10% should get more than that. It’s a non-linear deal. If I were in that position I’d say well I’ll do it for 20%. But generally I don’t like deals and almost never propose them myself. But I’ll listen to what people say."