DTG motivationstråd

#1| 0

Er staket til denne af frudrusse.

Jeg har ikke spillet længe men har fundet et lille hul i dag. Spiller derfor DTG med latereg i 1. pause.

Vil bruge denne tråd til at smide hænder i da jeg har en tendens til at være lidt for frisk den første gang jeg spiller efter en længere pause. Så for at holde fokus tages PN med som tilskuer. Alle hænder der involvere mere end 20% af stakken skal postes her.

Kom gerne med kommentarer til mit spil.

1. pause 3000
2. pause Out inden denne pause

29-10-2009 20:20 #2| 0
OP

Han leader på turn med 2'er eller draws.

PokerStars Game #34658012182: Tournament #208010494, $10+$1 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level VII (50/100) - 2009/10/29 15:11:14 ET
Table '208010494 182' 9-max Seat #8 is the button
Seat 1: mcsnook (5215 in chips)
Seat 2: redrumttam (920 in chips)
Seat 3: pokerabo (6660 in chips)
Seat 4: SeymorJuggs (5250 in chips)
Seat 5: JoesSqueezer (9765 in chips)
Seat 6: Pete.Pt (3380 in chips)
Seat 7: Stenbek (2830 in chips)
Seat 8: jonathanth (2620 in chips)
Seat 9: m.h.1986 (4235 in chips)
mcsnook: posts the ante 10
redrumttam: posts the ante 10
pokerabo: posts the ante 10
SeymorJuggs: posts the ante 10
JoesSqueezer: posts the ante 10
Pete.Pt: posts the ante 10
Stenbek: posts the ante 10
jonathanth: posts the ante 10
m.h.1986: posts the ante 10
m.h.1986: posts small blind 50
mcsnook: posts big blind 100
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Stenbek [8s Ad]
redrumttam: folds
pokerabo: folds
SeymorJuggs: folds
JoesSqueezer: folds
Pete.Pt: folds
Stenbek: raises 200 to 300
jonathanth: folds
m.h.1986: calls 250
mcsnook: folds
*** FLOP *** [Jc 2d 2c]
m.h.1986: checks
Stenbek: bets 575
m.h.1986: calls 575
*** TURN *** [Jc 2d 2c] [8d]
m.h.1986: bets 900
Stenbek: calls 900
*** RIVER *** [Jc 2d 2c 8d] [Ts]
m.h.1986: checks
Stenbek: checks
*** SHOW DOWN ***
m.h.1986: shows [7c Kc] (a pair of Deuces)
Stenbek: shows [8s Ad] (two pair, Eights and Deuces)
Stenbek collected 3740 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 3740 | Rake 0
Board [Jc 2d 2c 8d Ts]
Seat 1: mcsnook (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 2: redrumttam folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: pokerabo folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: SeymorJuggs folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: JoesSqueezer folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: Pete.Pt folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: Stenbek showed [8s Ad] and won (3740) with two pair, Eights and Deuces
Seat 8: jonathanth (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: m.h.1986 (small blind) showed [7c Kc] and lost with a pair of Deuces

29-10-2009 20:25 #3| 0

Gl med det Stenbek.
Vil gerne komme med nogen kommentarer på hænderne, løbende.

Den hånd du poster er ok, kunne selv have spillet den på samme måde.

//MoPe

29-10-2009 20:29 #4| 0
OP

Readet var korrekt men er lidt for svært at se BB's kort. ;o)

PokerStars Game #34658866704: Tournament #208010494, $10+$1 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level VIII (60/120) - 2009/10/29 15:28:23 ET
Table '208010494 182' 9-max Seat #9 is the button
Seat 1: mcsnook (6000 in chips)
Seat 2: achimk69 (4780 in chips)
Seat 3: pokerabo (6680 in chips)
Seat 4: SeymorJuggs (4235 in chips)
Seat 5: JoesSqueezer (15690 in chips)
Seat 6: Fatal-Card (7390 in chips)
Seat 7: Stenbek (4770 in chips)
Seat 8: jonathanth (4055 in chips)
Seat 9: tomitomsen22 (4005 in chips)
mcsnook: posts the ante 15
achimk69: posts the ante 15
pokerabo: posts the ante 15
SeymorJuggs: posts the ante 15
JoesSqueezer: posts the ante 15
Fatal-Card: posts the ante 15
Stenbek: posts the ante 15
jonathanth: posts the ante 15
tomitomsen22: posts the ante 15
mcsnook: posts small blind 60
achimk69: posts big blind 120
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Stenbek [Tc Jc]
pokerabo: folds
SeymorJuggs: folds
JoesSqueezer: calls 120
Fatal-Card: calls 120
Stenbek: raises 480 to 600
jonathanth: folds
tomitomsen22: folds
mcsnook: folds
achimk69: raises 4165 to 4765 and is all-in
JoesSqueezer: folds
Fatal-Card: folds
Stenbek: folds
Uncalled bet (4165) returned to achimk69
achimk69 collected 1635 from pot
achimk69: doesn't show hand
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 1635 | Rake 0
Seat 1: mcsnook (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 2: achimk69 (big blind) collected (1635)
Seat 3: pokerabo folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: SeymorJuggs folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: JoesSqueezer folded before Flop
Seat 6: Fatal-Card folded before Flop
Seat 7: Stenbek folded before Flop
Seat 8: jonathanth folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: tomitomsen22 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)

29-10-2009 20:37 #5| 0
OP

Det var sgu en kort fornøjelse.

Lidt for friskt spillet, ellers et spil jeg har haft en del succes med i det spot på lowstakes.

PokerStars Game #34659141019: Tournament #208010494, $10+$1 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level IX (75/150) - 2009/10/29 15:33:50 ET
Table '208010494 182' 9-max Seat #6 is the button
Seat 1: mcsnook (5675 in chips)
Seat 2: achimk69 (5430 in chips)
Seat 3: pokerabo (5670 in chips)
Seat 4: SeymorJuggs (5825 in chips)
Seat 5: JoesSqueezer (14630 in chips)
Seat 6: Fatal-Card (8640 in chips)
Seat 7: Stenbek (3905 in chips)
Seat 8: jonathanth (3940 in chips)
Seat 9: tomitomsen22 (3890 in chips)
mcsnook: posts the ante 20
achimk69: posts the ante 20
pokerabo: posts the ante 20
SeymorJuggs: posts the ante 20
JoesSqueezer: posts the ante 20
Fatal-Card: posts the ante 20
Stenbek: posts the ante 20
jonathanth: posts the ante 20
tomitomsen22: posts the ante 20
Stenbek: posts small blind 75
jonathanth: posts big blind 150
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Stenbek [2s Ah]
tomitomsen22: folds
mcsnook: folds
achimk69: folds
pokerabo: folds
SeymorJuggs: folds
JoesSqueezer: folds
Fatal-Card: folds
Stenbek: raises 3735 to 3885 and is all-in
jonathanth: calls 3735
*** FLOP *** [5s 4h Ks]
*** TURN *** [5s 4h Ks] [Td]
*** RIVER *** [5s 4h Ks Td] [9h]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Stenbek: shows [2s Ah] (high card Ace)
jonathanth: shows [9c 9d] (three of a kind, Nines)
jonathanth collected 7950 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 7950 | Rake 0
Board [5s 4h Ks Td 9h]
Seat 1: mcsnook folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: achimk69 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: pokerabo folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: SeymorJuggs folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: JoesSqueezer folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: Fatal-Card (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: Stenbek (small blind) showed [2s Ah] and lost with high card Ace
Seat 8: jonathanth (big blind) showed [9c 9d] and won (7950) with three of a kind, Nines
Seat 9: tomitomsen22 folded before Flop (didn't bet)

29-10-2009 20:41 #7| 0

mener ikke potten er stor nok til at det move for alvor er profitabelt.
Standard raise / fold til skub er nok oftest mit valg i det spot. Evt et limp hvis bb er virkelig svag

29-10-2009 20:41 #6| 0

Har ikke brugt så kraftigt raise selv, for at tage 150 chips, så skal ikke kunne sige om det er +ev eller ej.

Men std. raise til 600 burde være nok, til at få ham til at ligge sig?

//MoPe

29-10-2009 20:47 #8| 0
OP

Med min SB er der 405 i potten og ikke 225 som I skriver.

De 405 er en tilførelse på mere end 10% af min stack. Jeg får et svagt call af suitede connectors og 2 facecards som skal opveje de gange jeg er bagud til et par eller et stærkt es. Alle andre combinationer folder de. Tror altså det er +EV spil men har ikke haft den gennem en simulator.

29-10-2009 20:51 #9| 0

Jeg tror din call range er lidt off.
Tvivler meget på du får call, af SC's, eller for den sags skyld anytwo facecards.

De fleste par vil nok calle, + AK, AQ, AJ, AT.
Men om du kan stjæle potten nok gange til at det kan opveje de gange du får et call, er jeg i tvivl om.

I mine øjne ligner det et -ev spil.

Jeg er som skrevet tidligere mere til std. raise/fold til push.

//MoPe

29-10-2009 20:55 #10| 0

Jeg fatter godt nok heller ikke det play tbh.

Ville mene et limp i sb er at foretrække her, da du som udgangpunkt har markant edge post-flop ift. avg. DTG-spiller til trods for du er OOP. Et shove er imo lidt spewish - no disrespect.

29-10-2009 21:02 #11| 0
OP

Bruger det som en af de varianter jeg spiller med.

Og på det her niveau er der faktisk en del der caller med SC's og 2 facecards, men ved nærmere eftertanke nok lidt længere henne i forløbet.

Så tror faktisk ikke at det er så way off som I plæderer for. Husk at samme spil laves med mellempar og af og til med AA og KK også samt stærke esser.

Som skrevet er det kun en af 4-5 varianter jeg spiller med i det spot.

29-10-2009 21:06 #12| 0
OP

Den her var også mistimet. Men den kan også med lidt tur i den gå hen og give den dobbel jeg ønsker hvis han sidder med any pair eller et stærkt es. Eller hvis han bare moser.

PokerStars Game #34658687450: Tournament #208010494, $10+$1 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level VIII (60/120) - 2009/10/29 15:24:48 ET
Table '208010494 182' 9-max Seat #5 is the button
Seat 1: mcsnook (7020 in chips)
Seat 3: pokerabo (6740 in chips)
Seat 4: SeymorJuggs (4295 in chips)
Seat 5: JoesSqueezer (16110 in chips)
Seat 6: Fatal-Card (6355 in chips)
Seat 7: Stenbek (4470 in chips)
Seat 8: jonathanth (4475 in chips)
Seat 9: tomitomsen22 (3315 in chips)
mcsnook: posts the ante 15
pokerabo: posts the ante 15
SeymorJuggs: posts the ante 15
JoesSqueezer: posts the ante 15
Fatal-Card: posts the ante 15
Stenbek: posts the ante 15
jonathanth: posts the ante 15
tomitomsen22: posts the ante 15
Fatal-Card: posts small blind 60
Stenbek: posts big blind 120
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Stenbek [Js 8h]
jonathanth: folds
tomitomsen22: folds
mcsnook: folds
pokerabo: folds
SeymorJuggs: folds
JoesSqueezer: raises 120 to 240
Fatal-Card: folds
achimk69 is connected
Stenbek: calls 120
*** FLOP *** [7s Jd Jh]
Stenbek: bets 360
JoesSqueezer: folds
Uncalled bet (360) returned to Stenbek
Stenbek collected 660 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 660 | Rake 0
Board [7s Jd Jh]
Seat 1: mcsnook folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: pokerabo folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: SeymorJuggs folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: JoesSqueezer (button) folded on the Flop
Seat 6: Fatal-Card (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 7: Stenbek (big blind) collected (660)
Seat 8: jonathanth folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: tomitomsen22 folded before Flop (didn't bet)

29-10-2009 21:07 #13| 0

Som du selv nævner, så er det længere henne i forløbet disse calls med SC's og 2 facecards, kommer.

Tvivler på at du her i startspillet, får så mange calls som du beskriver tidligere.

Så min konklusion må være at spillet godt kan betale sig når du kommer lidt længere hen i spillet, men ikke de første par timer.

//MoPe

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