Max value af quads???

Hey

Jeg er ret usikkert på, hvordan jeg får max value af quads... De kommer på mange måder med en eller to hjemmefra og enten tidligt på flop eller sent på turn og/eller river, så det er selvfølgelig svært at sige noget generelt...

Og derudover er det selvf. modstanderspecifikt og så skal modstanderen jo også ramme noget hus/trips/to høje par før der er value i det...

Så jeg har valgt at paste mine seneste quads, og så vil jeg bede jer om at komme med forslag til, hvordan udbyttet kan maximeres i de forskellige hænder, THANKS :D

Jeg har generelt forsøgt at slowplaye dem, da jeg helst ikke vil skræmme folk væk fra de forskellige boards, og jeg er jo ikke bange for turn/river, når først de 4 ens er ramt... Anyway here goes:

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HÅND 1:

BossMedia Game #1258473891: Table Table TH 164 - $0.25/$0.50 - No Limit Hold'em - 04:50:03 - 2008/10/01
Seat 1: alaincaiss ($32.35)
Seat 2: robi12345 ($31.24)
Seat 3: olegboy ($48.75)
Seat 4: Tobias_E ($42.69)
Seat 5: IstvaNDK ($95.80)
Tobias_E posts the small blind of $0.25
IstvaNDK posts the big blind of $0.50
olegboy is the button
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to IstvaNDK [9c 9h]
alaincaiss folds
robi12345 raises $2.00
olegboy folds
Tobias_E calls $2.00
IstvaNDK calls $2.00
*** FLOP *** [6d 3d 9s]
Tobias_E checks
IstvaNDK checks
robi12345 checks
*** TURN *** [6d 3d 9s] [9d]
Tobias_E checks
IstvaNDK checks
robi12345 checks
*** RIVER *** [6d 3d 9s 9d] [Ah]
Tobias_E checks
IstvaNDK bets $5.00
robi12345 folds
Tobias_E folds
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $5.70 | Rake $0.30
Board: [6d 3d 9s 9d Ah]
alaincaiss won ($0.00), mucks
robi12345 won ($0.00), mucks
olegboy won ($0.00), mucks
Tobias_E won ($0.00), mucks
IstvaNDK won ($5.70), mucks

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HÅND 2:

BossMedia Game #1259963745: Table Table TH 671 - $0.25/$0.50 - No Limit Hold'em - 09:10:07 - 2008/10/02
Seat 1: stiucarul ($68.43)
Seat 2: PaukkuPasi ($49.25)
Seat 3: IstvaNDK ($51.30)
Seat 4: Banannas ($107.93)
Seat 5: vitaha111 ($76.44)
stiucarul posts the small blind of $0.25
PaukkuPasi posts the big blind of $0.50
vitaha111 is the button
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to IstvaNDK [8c 8d]
IstvaNDK raises $2.00
Banannas folds
vitaha111 folds
stiucarul folds
PaukkuPasi calls $2.00
*** FLOP *** [8s 8h Tc]
PaukkuPasi checks
IstvaNDK bets $2.00
PaukkuPasi raises $6.00
IstvaNDK calls $6.00
*** TURN *** [8s 8h Tc] [2c]
PaukkuPasi bets $11.00
IstvaNDK calls $11.00
*** RIVER *** [8s 8h Tc 2c] [5d]
PaukkuPasi goes all-in with $30.25
IstvaNDK calls $30.25
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $95.75 | Rake $3.00
Board: [8s 8h Tc 2c 5d]
stiucarul won ($0.00), mucks
PaukkuPasi won ($0.00), showed [6c 5c]
IstvaNDK won ($95.75), showed [8c 8d]
Banannas won ($0.00), mucks
vitaha111 won ($0.00), mucks

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HÅND 3:

BossMedia Game #1261288848: Table Table TH 146 - $0.12/$0.25 - No Limit Hold'em - 05:49:29 - 2008/10/03
Seat 1: onyx1212 ($141.76)
Seat 2: JakerrrrPL ($25.00)
Seat 3: OpenRaise ($67.77)
Seat 4: IstvaNDK ($87.72)
Seat 5: Gewurtz1 ($24.75)
IstvaNDK posts the small blind of $0.12
onyx1212 posts the big blind of $0.25
OpenRaise is the button
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to IstvaNDK [7d 7c]
OpenRaise raises $1.00
IstvaNDK calls $1.00
onyx1212 calls $1.00
*** FLOP *** [7h Th 7s]
IstvaNDK checks
onyx1212 checks
OpenRaise bets $2.00
IstvaNDK calls $2.00
onyx1212 folds
*** TURN *** [7h Th 7s] [4d]
IstvaNDK checks
OpenRaise bets $6.00
IstvaNDK calls $6.00
*** RIVER *** [7h Th 7s 4d] [Ah]
IstvaNDK checks
OpenRaise checks
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $18.05 | Rake $0.95
Board: [7h Th 7s 4d Ah]
OpenRaise won ($0.00), mucks
onyx1212 won ($0.00), mucks
JakerrrrPL won ($0.00), showed [ER ER]
IstvaNDK won ($18.05), showed [7d 7c]
Gewurtz1 won ($0.00), showed [ER ER]

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HÅND 4:


BossMedia Game #1262371860: Table TH Mini 32 - $0.12/$0.25 - No Limit Hold'em - 21:21:23 - 2008/10/03
Seat 1: IstvaNDK ($24.25)
Seat 2: ba478ba ($22.87)
Seat 3: NeverAAwin ($48.42)
Seat 4: ElNotcho ($27.62)
Seat 5: MasaHiiri ($24.08)
MasaHiiri posts the small blind of $0.12
IstvaNDK posts the big blind of $0.25
ElNotcho is the button
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to IstvaNDK [3c 3s]
ba478ba calls $0.25
NeverAAwin raises $0.75
ElNotcho folds
MasaHiiri folds
IstvaNDK calls $0.75
ba478ba calls $0.75
*** FLOP *** [Qh Kd 3h]
IstvaNDK checks
ba478ba bets $0.75
NeverAAwin calls $0.75
IstvaNDK raises $3.00
ba478ba calls $3.00
NeverAAwin calls $3.00
*** TURN *** [Qh Kd 3h] [3d]
IstvaNDK checks
ba478ba checks
NeverAAwin checks
*** RIVER *** [Qh Kd 3h 3d] [Ac]
IstvaNDK bets $5.00
ba478ba calls $5.00
NeverAAwin raises $10.00
IstvaNDK raises $19.50
ba478ba folds
NeverAAwin calls $19.50
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $52.62 | Rake $2.75
Board: [Qh Kd 3h 3d Ac]
NeverAAwin won ($0.00), mucks
IstvaNDK won ($52.62), showed [3c 3s]
ba478ba won ($0.00), mucks
ElNotcho won ($0.00), mucks
MasaHiiri won ($0.00), mucks


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HÅND 5:


BossMedia Game #1264107747: Table Table TH 52 - $0.12/$0.25 - No Limit Hold'em - 08:18:41 - 2008/10/05
Seat 1: IstvaNDK ($23.00)
Seat 2: wassimm ($26.60)
Seat 3: Bluebull15 ($24.88)
Seat 4: liWinner ($27.93)
Seat 5: myhero ($23.87)
wassimm posts the small blind of $0.12
Bluebull15 posts the big blind of $0.25
IstvaNDK is the button
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to IstvaNDK [9h 9c]
liWinner folds
myhero folds
IstvaNDK raises $0.75
wassimm calls $0.75
Bluebull15 calls $0.75
*** FLOP *** [5d 9d 9s]
wassimm checks
Bluebull15 bets $2.25
IstvaNDK calls $2.25
wassimm folds
*** TURN *** [5d 9d 9s] [Td]
Bluebull15 checks
IstvaNDK checks
*** RIVER *** [5d 9d 9s Td] [Jd]
Bluebull15 checks
IstvaNDK bets $4.25
Bluebull15 folds
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $6.45 | Rake $0.30
Board: [5d 9d 9s Td Jd]
IstvaNDK won ($6.45), mucks
wassimm won ($0.00), mucks
Bluebull15 won ($0.00), mucks
liWinner won ($0.00), mucks
myhero won ($0.00), mucks


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HÅND 6:

BossMedia Game #1264145576: Table TH Mini 39 - $0.12/$0.25 - No Limit Hold'em - 09:19:55 - 2008/10/05
Seat 1: bunbury. ($18.69)
Seat 2: IstvaNDK ($164.84)
Seat 3: alcybiad11 ($25.72)
Seat 4: TonioJoker ($52.10)
Seat 5: -Lazyeye- ($33.71)
alcybiad11 posts the small blind of $0.12
TonioJoker posts the big blind of $0.25
IstvaNDK is the button
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to IstvaNDK [5d 3d]
-Lazyeye- folds
bunbury. folds
IstvaNDK raises $0.75
alcybiad11 folds
TonioJoker calls $0.75
*** FLOP *** [3h Jc Td]
TonioJoker checks
IstvaNDK bets $1.00
TonioJoker raises $3.25
IstvaNDK calls $3.25
*** TURN *** [3h Jc Td] [3c]
TonioJoker bets $4.06
IstvaNDK calls $4.06
*** RIVER *** [3h Jc Td 3c] [3s]
TonioJoker checks
IstvaNDK bets $14.00
TonioJoker folds
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $15.44 | Rake $0.80
Board: [3h Jc Td 3c 3s]
bunbury. won ($0.00), mucks
IstvaNDK won ($15.44), mucks
alcybiad11 won ($0.00), mucks
TonioJoker won ($0.00), mucks
-Lazyeye- won ($0.00), mucks


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HÅND 7:

BossMedia Game #1264146628: Table TH Mini 39 - $0.12/$0.25 - No Limit Hold'em - 09:21:25 - 2008/10/05
Seat 1: bunbury. ($18.69)
Seat 2: IstvaNDK ($172.22)
Seat 3: alcybiad11 ($25.60)
Seat 4: TonioJoker ($44.04)
Seat 5: -Lazyeye- ($33.71)
TonioJoker posts the small blind of $0.12
-Lazyeye- posts the big blind of $0.25
alcybiad11 is the button
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to IstvaNDK [3c 3h]
bunbury. calls $0.25
IstvaNDK raises $0.75
alcybiad11 folds
TonioJoker folds
-Lazyeye- calls $0.75
bunbury. calls $0.75
*** FLOP *** [Js 9d 6c]
-Lazyeye- checks
bunbury. checks
IstvaNDK checks
*** TURN *** [Js 9d 6c] [3s]
-Lazyeye- bets $1.50
bunbury. calls $1.50
IstvaNDK calls $1.50
*** RIVER *** [Js 9d 6c 3s] [3d]
-Lazyeye- checks
bunbury. checks
IstvaNDK bets $4.50
-Lazyeye- folds
bunbury. calls $4.50
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $15.12 | Rake $0.75
Board: [Js 9d 6c 3s 3d]
bunbury. won ($0.00), mucks
IstvaNDK won ($15.12), showed [3c 3h]
alcybiad11 won ($0.00), mucks
TonioJoker won ($0.00), mucks
-Lazyeye- won ($0.00), mucks


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HÅND 8:

BossMedia Game #1264156314: Table Table TH 14 - $0.12/$0.25 - No Limit Hold'em - 09:34:48 - 2008/10/05
Seat 1: IstvaNDK ($30.07)
Seat 2: florin322 ($27.59)
Seat 3: Bluebull15 ($26.63)
Seat 4: zolibácsi6 ($20.60)
Seat 5: mazaman76 ($25.48)
zolibácsi6 posts the big blind of $0.25
Bluebull15 posts the small blind of $0.12
florin322 is the button
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to IstvaNDK [5h 5c]
mazaman76 raises $1.00
IstvaNDK calls $1.00
florin322 folds
Bluebull15 folds
zolibácsi6 folds
*** FLOP *** [2d 8d 4h]
mazaman76 bets $1.18
IstvaNDK calls $1.18
*** TURN *** [2d 8d 4h] [5s]
mazaman76 bets $4.73
IstvaNDK calls $4.73
*** RIVER *** [2d 8d 4h 5s] [5d]
mazaman76 bets $7.09
IstvaNDK goes all-in with $23.16
mazaman76 goes all-in with $18.57
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $48.78 | Rake $2.55
Board: [2d 8d 4h 5s 5d]
mazaman76 won ($0.00), mucks
IstvaNDK won ($48.78), showed [5h 5c]
florin322 won ($0.00), mucks
Bluebull15 won ($0.00), mucks
zolibácsi6 won ($0.00), mucks

LOL - enjoy you heater :D

av for satan, hvor er du varm

Lol WTF har du spillet like 1 mill hænder+ for at ramme quads så mange gange?

12,559... 4 af dem her til morgen, god session :D

loool heater 4tw. men syntes du spiller flere af dem alt for passivt i forhold til limit.

Raise turn i hånd 7, de andre kan jeg simpelthen ikke ta stilling til nu hvis du seriøst har ramt quads 8 gange over 12,5k hænder...

Fuckin psycho i want your luck!!! BAre byd meget og sats på de har noget, der er ikke rigtig andet, at gøre :)

Helt enig i hånd 7 :)

Og ja, spiller de fleste mega passivt... Men vil jo gerne have at de rammer et eller andet/bluffer i stedet for bare at bette dem af dem på flop :/

Floppet skal 100% bettes i første hånd - super drawheavy bord, og du har ikke lyst til at give et gratis kort i en 3-vejs pot.

ye det har du ret i StonieN, tror måske jeg regnede med, at preflop raiseren ville c-bette.. Dont know, men du har ret...

Du skal spille MEGET mere agressivt!
Det hjælper ikke at spille så passivt på nl50.

Mange fisk caller ned med 2nd og 3rd pair, så du kan sagtens fyre op!

Ok det lyder som løsningen.. Var også på fornemmelsen som jeg skriver øverst oppe.. Spiller langt mere agressivt med alle andre kort nærmest, men når en nutty hånd kommer, har jeg en tendens til at slowplaye den for meget :S

wtf istavante, det er flere quads end jeg har fået på like, 6 måneder... skynd dig op i limit!

Yeye skal lige lære spillet først, så kommer jeg og giver dig på nakken! :D

Er det virkelig så usædvanligt?? Hvad er sandsynligheden for at få quads da?

Synes jeg ser dem hele tiden, har fået dem 3 gange til siden jeg lavede det her topic..... :\

Især i en hånd som hånd 1. Forstår ikke du checker den der.. Det bare med at få sprøjtet nogle penge i potten.. Der både straight og flushdraw på bordet, og det eneste du risikere ved at checke er at folk rammer deres draw. Og som folk siger, på det limit caller folk med både 2nd og 3nd pair, så de skal nok betale dig af med deres semiskrald.. Hvis villains er på et draw må de betale for det:) Altid få bygget en god pot op..