MTT ROI

#1| 0

Hvis vi går ud fra det her:

MTT ROI Stats:

<0% Very Bad. You’re losing money in the long run and probably doing everything wrong.

0% Bad. Breaking even but still not getting paid for the effort you put in.

10% OK. This is ok. You’re making more money than 95% of everyone else in MTTs.

20%-30% Great. This is a very good ROI for MTTs. You’re probably in the top 97% of the field.

30 – 80% Pro’s. Professionals will aim for 40%+ ROI in MTTs. For example, Chris Moorman is the UK’s best online tournament player according to PocketFives 2008 rankings and earns around 36% ROI in tournaments


De skriver så at en sample på 100 MTT tours er nok for at kunne placeres i sådan en opstilling, er det rigtig nok eller skal der en større sample til?

28-06-2012 22:12 #2| 1

der skal en meget større sample til

28-06-2012 22:13 #3| 1

Intet af det der står der vil jeg tillægge nogen større værdi

28-06-2012 22:14 #4| 0

@oliu3

Har du noget bedre jeg kan kigge ud fra?

Tror den er fra 2008.

28-06-2012 22:16 #5| 0

næh, men det er jo ret vigtig at differentiere i forhold til BI og Average Field Size som minimum, og derfor er det de skriver der ikke voldsomt brugbart

28-06-2012 22:17 #6| 0
www.nsdpoker.com/2011/01/mtt-pros/

dette link viser noget om variansen i tours
28-06-2012 22:17 #7| 0

Tak Myrup. :)

28-06-2012 22:21 #8| 0

Tror ikke rigtigt man kan bruge 100 turneringer til så meget. Hver uge er der en heldig person der vinder Sunday mill, og selvom man taber 99/100 så vil roi'en stadig være enorm.

28-06-2012 22:23 #9| 0

Tænker også selv man skal på 1000+ for at bruge det til noget.

28-06-2012 22:36 #10| 0

over hvor mange spil ? har selv roi på 72% over 650 games ? :D så jeg pro ? wooow :D

28-06-2012 22:45 #11| 0

gizzarninja?

28-06-2012 22:46 #12| 0
Florczak skrev:
gizzarninja?


ja
28-06-2012 22:49 #13| 0

Det afhænger af hvor store turneringerne er, hvor stor en sample man skal have for at få det rigtige billede af ens ROI, men selv i 9-mans sng, vil 1000 ikke være nok.

Jeg har i 180 mans turbo haft -40% over 500 turneringer, og +50% over 1000 turneringer.

28-06-2012 22:54 #14| 0

Så er du jo i plus 10 ;)

28-06-2012 22:58 #15| 0

mindre når man taber dem her


PokerStars Hand #82587374812: Tournament #577810130, $8.00+$0.80 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level XXXIV (35000/70000) - 2012/06/28 22:41:57 CET [2012/06/28 16:41:57 ET]
Table '577810130 62' 9-max Seat #4 is the button
Seat 1: tosati`s (805986 in chips)
Seat 3: huge.fishh (1014682 in chips)
Seat 4: smily1208 (706238 in chips)
Seat 5: cbhelten (581610 in chips)
Seat 6: hylbyly (648338 in chips)
Seat 8: Eln$nho (1851617 in chips)
tosati`s: posts the ante 7000
huge.fishh: posts the ante 7000
smily1208: posts the ante 7000
cbhelten: posts the ante 7000
hylbyly: posts the ante 7000
Eln$nho: posts the ante 7000
cbhelten: posts small blind 35000
hylbyly: posts big blind 70000
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to cbhelten [Ah Qc]
Eln$nho: raises 1774617 to 1844617 and is all-in
tosati`s: folds
huge.fishh: folds
smily1208: folds
cbhelten: calls 539610 and is all-in
hylbyly: folds [Jh]
Uncalled bet (1270007) returned to Eln$nho
*** FLOP *** [Jd 9s Th]
*** TURN *** [Jd 9s Th] [5c]
*** RIVER *** [Jd 9s Th 5c] [5s]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
cbhelten: shows [Ah Qc] (a pair of Fives)
Eln$nho: shows [Ac Td] (two pair, Tens and Fives)
Eln$nho collected 1261220 from pot
cbhelten finished the tournament in 10th place and recieved 362.88$
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 1261220 | Rake 0
Board [Jd 9s Th 5c 5s]
Seat 1: tosati`s folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: huge.fishh folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: smily1208 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: cbhelten (small blind) showed [Ah Qc] and lost with a pair of Fives
Seat 6: hylbyly (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 8: Eln$nho showed [Ac Td] and won (1261220) with two pair, Tens and Fives

PokerStars Hand #82585740429: Tournament #577809421, $20+$2 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level XIX (600/1200) - 2012/06/28 22:02:54 CET [2012/06/28 16:02:54 ET]
Table '577809421 1' 6-max Seat #5 is the button
Seat 1: Jesusisback0 (40141 in chips)
Seat 2: whereisdonny (82333 in chips)
Seat 3: Spraggs (62952 in chips)
Seat 4: aslanoviz (33632 in chips)
Seat 5: cbhelten (65586 in chips)
Jesusisback0: posts the ante 240
whereisdonny: posts the ante 240
Spraggs: posts the ante 240
aslanoviz: posts the ante 240
cbhelten: posts the ante 240
Jesusisback0: posts small blind 600
whereisdonny: posts big blind 1200
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to cbhelten [Ac Ks]
Spraggs: raises 1200 to 2400
aslanoviz: folds
cbhelten: raises 4000 to 6400
Jesusisback0: folds
whereisdonny: raises 6800 to 13200
Spraggs: folds
cbhelten: calls 6800
*** FLOP *** [7d Kc Td]
whereisdonny: bets 10098
cbhelten: calls 10098
*** TURN *** [7d Kc Td] [9s]
whereisdonny: bets 33000
cbhelten: raises 9048 to 42048 and is all-in
whereisdonny: calls 9048
*** RIVER *** [7d Kc Td 9s] [5s]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
whereisdonny: shows [Ah As] (a pair of Aces)
cbhelten: shows [Ac Ks] (a pair of Kings)
whereisdonny collected 134892 from pot
cbhelten finished the tournament in 20th place and received $144.02.
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 134892 | Rake 0
Board [7d Kc Td 9s 5s]
Seat 1: Jesusisback0 (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 2: whereisdonny (big blind) showed [Ah As] and won (134892) with a pair of Aces
Seat 3: Spraggs folded before Flop
Seat 4: aslanoviz folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: cbhelten (button) showed [Ac Ks] and lost with a pair of Kings

29-06-2012 01:37 #16| 1

Hva har det med tråden at gøre sayallin? Piv et andet sted, ffs..

29-06-2012 01:48 #17| 0

Er ikke ekspert i varians, men det giver vel sig selv at hvis du ikke har spillet ligeså mange af den type tour som antallet af spillere i touren (fx 7k i SM) så kan du reelt ikke vide om du slår spillet fordi du ikke engang har kørt en enkelt cycle.

Forestil dig at spille 9 sngs med 9 mand. Hvor meget ved du egentlig? Intet som helst.

29-06-2012 01:52 #18| 0

Ved i nogle stakes skal du ha' 2500 tour stats at vise på hver trin du søger til. så 100 er jo overhovedet ikke nok.

29-06-2012 01:55 #19| 0

Bohn?

29-06-2012 02:01 #20| 0

Granaten11 ?

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