Mulig collusion?

#1| 0

Jeg sad ved et cryptologic 1/2 pund bord her forleden. Ved det bord sad 3 spillere(mjock, gunpowder og bblack), fordelt jævnt ud over bordet.

Efter at være blevet suget ind i en raising war mellem den, begyndte jeg at lægge mærke til at deres spil var lidt mistænkeligt:

De spillede meget ofte i de samme pots, og meget sjældent solo.

De ville spille ultra agressivt og bette og raise for (tilsyneladende) at slå andre spillere ud. Men når det kom til showdown, ville typisk kun een af dem calle/bette, resten folde, selv i monster pots.

Jeg er lidt i tvivl om jeg bare er paranoid eller om jeg skal kontake pokerrummet eller hvad.

Her er et par gode eksempler på deres spil:

Game #769097954: Texas Hold"em Limit (£1/£2) - 2005/08/02 - 12:12:47 (UK)
Table "Cyprus" Seat 3 is the button.
Seat 1: gunpowder (£82.26 in chips)
Seat 2: Janus (£28 in chips)
Seat 3: AMB_007 (£41.25 in chips)
Seat 4: MrZamir (£49 in chips)
Seat 5: bblack (£104.94 in chips)
Seat 6: ploven7 (£56.50 in chips)
Seat 7: Neaman (£54.20 in chips)
Seat 8: mjock (£69.50 in chips)
Seat 9: Tabac (£6.74 in chips)
Seat 10: Dylan1 (£119 in chips)
MrZamir: posts small blind £0.50
bblack: posts big blind £1
----- HOLE CARDS -----
dealt to Janus [4c 8d]
ploven7: folds
Neaman: calls £1
mjock: calls £1
Tabac: folds
Dylan1: calls £1
gunpowder: calls £1
Janus: folds
AMB_007: folds
MrZamir: folds
bblack: raises £1 <--- Raise 1
Neaman: calls £1
mjock: calls £1
Dylan1: calls £1
gunpowder: raises £2 <--- Raise 2
bblack: calls £1
Neaman: calls £1
mjock: raises £2 <--- Raise 3
Dylan1: folds
gunpowder: calls £1
bblack: calls £1
Neaman: calls £1
----- FLOP ----- [6d 2s Qs]
bblack: checks
Neaman: bets £1
mjock: calls £1
gunpowder: calls £1
bblack: calls £1
----- TURN ----- [6d 2s Qs][9s]
bblack: checks
Neaman: checks
mjock: checks
gunpowder: bets £2
bblack: raises £4
Neaman: calls £4
mjock: calls £4
gunpowder: calls £2
----- RIVER ----- [6d 2s Qs 9s][Ts]
bblack: checks
Neaman: bets £2
mjock: calls £2
gunpowder: folds <------------------------------------------- Hmmm
bblack: folds <------------------------------------------- Hmmm
----- SHOW DOWN -----
Neaman: shows [As 3s] (A Flush, Ace high)
mjock: mucks hand
Neaman collected £40.50 from Main pot
----- SUMMARY -----
Total pot £42.50 Main pot £40.50 Rake £2
Board [6d 2s Qs 9s Ts]
Seat 1: gunpowder folded on the River
Seat 2: Janus folded before Flop (didn"t bet)
Seat 3: AMB_007 (button) folded before Flop (didn"t bet)
Seat 4: MrZamir (small blind) folded before Flop (didn"t bet)
Seat 5: bblack (big blind) folded on the River
Seat 6: ploven7 folded before Flop (didn"t bet)
Seat 7: Neaman showed [As 3s] and won (£40.50) with A Flush, Ace high
Seat 8: mjock mucked
Seat 9: Tabac folded before Flop (didn"t bet)
Seat 10: Dylan1 folded before Flop (didn"t bet)
****HAND ENDS****


Game #769108844: Texas Hold"em Limit (£1/£2) - 2005/08/02 - 12:15:22 (UK)
Table "Cyprus" Seat 5 is the button.
Seat 1: gunpowder (£73.26 in chips)
Seat 2: Janus (£28 in chips)
Seat 3: AMB_007 (£41.25 in chips)
Seat 4: MrZamir (£48.50 in chips)
Seat 5: bblack (£95.44 in chips)
Seat 6: ploven7 (£57 in chips)
Seat 7: Neaman (£83.70 in chips)
Seat 8: mjock (£58.50 in chips)
Seat 9: Tabac (£6.74 in chips)
Seat 10: Dylan1 (£117 in chips)
ploven7: posts small blind £0.50<

03-08-2005 18:11 #2| 0
OP

1 til her:

Game #769030904: Texas Hold"em Limit (£1/£2) - 2005/08/02 - 11:52:06 (UK)
Table "Cyprus" Seat 6 is the button.
Seat 1: gunpowder (£83.26 in chips)
Seat 2: Janus (£36.75 in chips)
Seat 3: AMB_007 (£39.50 in chips)
Seat 4: Callyboy (£75 in chips)
Seat 5: bblack (£101.94 in chips)
Seat 6: ploven7 (£54.75 in chips)
Seat 7: Neaman (£50.20 in chips)
Seat 8: mjock (£63.75 in chips)
Seat 9: Tabac (£40.74 in chips)
Seat 10: Dylan1 (£106.25 in chips)
Neaman: posts small blind £0.50
mjock: posts big blind £1
----- HOLE CARDS -----
dealt to Janus [3d Ah]
Tabac: folds
Dylan1: folds
gunpowder: calls £1
Janus: folds
AMB_007: folds
Callyboy: calls £1
bblack: calls £1
ploven7: raises £2
Neaman: folds
mjock: calls £1
gunpowder: calls £1
Callyboy: calls £1
bblack: calls £1
----- FLOP ----- [5c 4d 9s]
mjock: checks
gunpowder: folds
gunpowder sits out
Callyboy: checks
bblack: bets £1
ploven7: folds
gunpowder sits back
mjock: raises £2
Callyboy: folds
bblack: raises £2
mjock: folds
Returned uncalled bets £1 to bblack
bblack: doesn"t show hand
bblack collected £14 from Main pot
----- SUMMARY -----
Total pot £14.50 Main pot £14 Rake £0.50
Board [5c 4d 9s]
Seat 1: gunpowder folded on the Flop
Seat 2: Janus folded before Flop (didn"t bet)
Seat 3: AMB_007 folded before Flop (didn"t bet)
Seat 4: Callyboy folded on the Flop
Seat 5: bblack collected £14
Seat 6: ploven7 (button) folded on the Flop
Seat 7: Neaman (small blind) folded before Flop (didn"t bet)
Seat 8: mjock (big blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 9: Tabac folded before Flop (didn"t bet)
Seat 10: Dylan1 folded before Flop (didn"t bet)
****HAND ENDS****

03-08-2005 18:35 #3| 0

Jeg synes bare du skal smide handhistories ind forbi deres support og så lade dem afgøre om de tre snyder... De har jo trods alt eksperter til at afgøre sådan noget.

Det ser dog noget mistænkeligt ud.

03-08-2005 18:37 #4| 0

Det er vist mere end muligt... Synes de handhistories skal sendes til crypto og lade dem se på det...

Så kan du lave et lay-up og lade cryptologik lave et alley-oop ;-)

03-08-2005 18:41 #5| 0

...og så dunker du!!!! ;)

03-08-2005 18:48 #6| 0

Held og lykke med det - crypto"s kundeservice virker ikke eksisterende efter min mening, medmindre man kan skrive direkte til Ryan fra Interpoker.

03-08-2005 18:52 #7| 0

Som altid med sådanne sager: Er du i tvivl, så send en mail til supporten.

03-08-2005 20:20 #8| 0

Jeg har spillet med mjock, gunpowder og bblack på Noble Poker.
Skal nok holde øje med dem næste gang jeg ser dem...

04-08-2005 00:34 #9| 0
OP

Ok jeg har sent dem en mail, så får vi se om der var noget om snakken. Det er da forøvrigt lidt af et sammentræf at de 3 spillere både spiller på crypto og ipoker(noble poker) netværket..

04-08-2005 02:31 #10| 0

Hvis de spiller på samme bord alle 3 begge steder er der vel ingen tvivl
Viser iøvrigt hvor dumme folk der snyder tit er, hvorfor dog bruge de samme navne ?
Tit og ofte er folk der snyder så ringe, at man kan nakke dem anyway.
Har jeg været med til flere gange i whist, hvor vi lokker dem til at byde for meget, og så nakker dem til stor morskab ;-)

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