Når man mister selvkontrollen -Lang

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Jeg har spillet NL Holdem cash game i ca. et år, og den eneste vej det er gået, er fremad. Jeg har ikke oplevet en måned med minus eller nogen som helst form for modgang på min vej fra NL10 til NL400.
Jeg har ikke rigtig været inde i nogen form for downswing eller det der minder om.
Jeg rykkede op på NL400 i slutningen af marts, og har haft rigtig godt fat på bordene hele måneden. Jeg har også været omkring NL600, når der har siddet nogle gode fisk på de borde.

I går oplevede jeg så hvad jeg et eller andet sted, frygtede ville ske en eller anden dag. Godt nok er det sikkert vand ved siden af, hvad andre har oplevet, men skriver egentlig bare det her for at vise, at man sagtens kan miste selvkontrollen, selvom man føler man har et godt tag på sine modstandere.
En af mine forcer har været, at jeg er rimelig god til at stoppe med at spille, når jeg er running bad, eller spillet ganske enkelt ikke fungerer. Plejer at køre med 3-4 BI som stop-loss-strategy, men i går slog hjernen fra pga. 4-5 klamme hænder i begyndelsen af sessionen.

Har valgt at poste her:

Texas Hold'em $3-$6 NL (5 max) (real money)

Seat 3: orfeass2 ($310.55 in chips)
Seat 6: NoSelfcontrol [ A,2 ] ($600 in chips)
Seat 7: ruletrap ($609 in chips)
Seat 8: senorquinn ($600 in chips)
Seat 9: _Harvester_ ($615 in chips)
ANTES/BLINDS
_Harvester_ posts blind ($3), orfeass2 posts blind ($6).

PRE-FLOP
Selfcontrol bets $21, ruletrap calls $21, senorquinn folds, _Harvester_ folds, orfeass2 folds.

FLOP [board cards 8,3,4 ]
NoSelfcontrol bets $39, ruletrap bets $120, NoSelfcontrol bets $241, ruletrap bets $468, and is all-in, NoSelfcontrol calls $299, and is all-in.

TURN [2

RIVER [Q ]
SHOWDOWN
ruletrap shows [ Q,J ]
NoSelfcontrol shows [ A,2 ]


Texas Hold'em $3-$6 NL (5 max) (real money)

Seat 3: orfeass2 ($481.80 in chips)
Seat 6: NoSelfcontrol [ A,J ] ($591 in chips)
Seat 7: ruletrap ($1131 in chips)
Seat 8: senorquinn ($600 in chips)
Seat 9: lntrepid1 ($600 in chips)
ANTES/BLINDS
ruletrap posts blind ($3), senorquinn posts blind ($6).

PRE-FLOP
lntrepid1 folds, orfeass2 calls $6, NoSelfcontrol bets $27, ruletrap folds, senorquinn folds, orfeass2 bets $84, NoSelfcontrol bets $564, and is all-in, orfeass2 calls $391.80, and is all-in.

FLOP [board cards Q,5,2 ]

TURN [7 ]

RIVER [2 ]
SHOWDOWN
NoSelfcontrol shows [ A,J ]
orfeass2 shows [ Q,J ]
orfeass2 wins $969.60.
NoSelfcontrol wins $109.20.
ruletrap wins $1215.

Texas Hold'em $2-$4 NL (5 max) (real money)

Seat 1: NoSelfcontrol [ K,K ] ($465 in chips)
Seat 2: B. Lebowski ($188 in chips)
Seat 8: SKELLEFTE ($479.70 in chips)
Seat 9: .9 ($439.30 in chips)
Seat 10: turhanc2 ($601.95 in chips)
ANTES/BLINDS
turhanc2 posts blind ($2), NoSelfcontrol posts blind ($4).

PRE-FLOP
B. Lebowski bets $16, SKELLEFTE calls $16, .9 folds, turhanc2 calls $14, NoSelfcontrol bets $56, B. Lebowski calls $44, SKELLEFTE bets $120, turhanc2 folds, NoSelfcontrol bets $405, and is all-in, B. Lebowski folds, SKELLEFTE calls $329.

FLOP [board cards A,7,2 ]

TURN [J ]

RIVER [Q ]
SHOWDOWN
NoSelfcontrol shows [ K,K ]
SKELLEFTE shows [ Q,Q ]
SKELLEFTE wins $1003.


Texas Hold'em $2-$4 NL (5 max) (real money)

Seat 5: cbentz ($409.30 in chips)
Seat 6: ZOUKOS1 ($172.70 in chips)
Seat 7: Domir200 ($400 in chips)
Seat 8: NoSelfcontrol [ K,K ] ($418 in chips)
Seat 9: SnakePl68 ($396 in chips)
ANTES/BLINDS
SnakePl68 posts blind ($2), cbentz posts blind ($4).

PRE-FLOP
ZOUKOS1 folds, Domir200 bets $12, NoSelfcontrol bets $42, SnakePl68 folds, cbentz folds, Domir200 calls $30.

FLOP [board cards J,4,5 ]
Domir200 checks, NoSelfcontrol bets $52, Domir200 bets $119, NoSelfcontrol calls $67.

TURN [3 ]
Domir200 bets $239, and is all-in, NoSelfcontrol calls $239.

RIVER [3 ]
SHOWDOWN
Domir200 shows [ A,A ]
NoSelfcontrol shows [ K,K ]
Domir200 wins $803.



Texas Hold'em $2-$4 NL (5 max) (real money)

Seat 1: IVO Big ($313.50 in chips)
Seat 2: NoSelfcontrol [ A,K ] ($483.30 in chips)
Seat 5: Bob868 ($313.35 in chips)
Seat 8: .9 ($603.90 in chips)
Seat 10: threeputter3 ($585.20 in chips)
ANTES/BLINDS
threeputter3 posts blind ($2), IVO Big posts blind ($4).

PRE-FLOP
NoSelfcontrol bets $14, Bob868 bets $48, .9 folds, threeputter3 folds, IVO Big folds, NoSelfcontrol bets $469.30, and is all-in, Bob868 calls $265.35, and is all-in.

FLOP [board cards 6,3,6 ]

TURN [J ]

RIVER [8 ]
SHOWDOWN
NoSelfcontrol shows [ A,K ]
Bob868 shows [ K,A ]
NoSelfcontrol wins $169.95.
Bob868 wins $629.70.


Texas Hold'em $6-$12 NL (5 max) (real money),

Seat 1: luckymen__2 ($409.05 in chips)
Seat 2: NoSelfcontrol [ K,A ] ($612 in chips)
Seat 7: evileyes. ($965 in chips)
Seat 8: EnglishRosy ($960.45 in chips)
Seat 10: turhanc2 ($382.35 in chips)
ANTES/BLINDS
evileyes. posts blind ($3), EnglishRosy posts blind ($6).

PRE-FLOP
turhanc2 calls $6, luckymen__2 bets $27, NoSelfcontrol bets $80, evileyes. folds, EnglishRosy folds, turhanc2 folds, luckymen__2 bets $382.05, and is all-in, NoSelfcontrol calls $329.05.

FLOP [board cards 4,K,7 ]

TURN [3 ]

RIVER [2 ]
SHOWDOWN
luckymen__2 shows [ A,A ]
NoSelfcontrol shows [ K,A ]
luckymen__2 wins $830.10.


Texas Hold'em $3-$6 NL (5 max) (real money)

Seat 1: luckymen__2 ($409.05 in chips)
Seat 2: NoSelfcontrol [ K,A ] ($612 in chips)
Seat 7: evileyes. ($965 in chips)
Seat 8: EnglishRosy ($960.45 in chips)
Seat 10: turhanc2 ($382.35 in chips)
ANTES/BLINDS
evileyes. posts blind ($3), EnglishRosy posts blind ($6).

PRE-FLOP
turhanc2 calls $6, luckymen__2 bets $27, NoSelfcontrol bets $80, evileyes. folds, EnglishRosy folds, turhanc2 folds, luckymen__2 bets $382.05, and is all-in, NoSelfcontrol calls $329.05.

FLOP [board cards 4,K,7 ]

TURN [3 ]

RIVER [2 ]
SHOWDOWN
luckymen__2 shows [ A,A ]
NoSelfcontrol shows [ K,A ]
luckymen__2 wins $830.10.



Texas Hold'em $2-$4 NL (5 max) (real money)

Seat 2: tomasian ($194.50 in chips)
Seat 4: ZeaLolka ($394 in chips)
Seat 5: NoSelfcontrol [ 7,A ] ($400 in chips)
Seat 6: jakobsmith87 ($157.70 in chips)
Seat 8: KUBATON ($175.90 in chips)
ANTES/BLINDS
ZeaLolka posts blind ($2), NoSelfcontrol posts blind ($4).

PRE-FLOP
jakobsmith87 folds, KUBATON folds, tomasian folds, ZeaLolka bets $10, NoSelfcontrol calls $8.

FLOP [board cards 9,A,7 ]
ZeaLolka bets $18, NoSelfcontrol bets $60, ZeaLolka bets $160, NoSelfcontrol bets $328, and is all-in, ZeaLolka calls $204, and is all-in.

TURN [2 ]

RIVER [K ]
SHOWDOWN
NoSelfcontrol shows [ 7,A ]
ZeaLolka shows [ 9,A ]
ZeaLolka wins $785.



Texas Hold'em $2-$4 NL (5 max) (real money)

Seat 3: ronaldo0909 ($214 in chips)
Seat 4: NoSelfcontrol [ 10,10 ] ($400 in chips)
Seat 7: weniotto ($392 in chips)
ANTES/BLINDS
ronaldo0909 posts blind ($2), NoSelfcontrol posts blind ($4).

PRE-FLOP
weniotto folds, ronaldo0909 bets $10, NoSelfcontrol bets $32, ronaldo0909 bets $202, and is all-in, NoSelfcontrol calls $178.

FLOP [board cards K,8,6 ]

TURN [J ]

RIVER [4 ]
SHOWDOWN
ronaldo0909 shows [ K,[A ]
NoSelfcontrol shows [ 10,10 ]
ronaldo0909 wins $426.



Texas Hold'em $3-$6 NL (5 max) (real money)

Seat 2: evileyes. ($1522.55 in chips)
Seat 5: gentilakarte ($600 in chips)
Seat 8: benno b. ($243.40 in chips)
Seat 9: NoSelfcontrol [ Q,A ] ($592.05 in chips)
Seat 10: purebIonde ($665.60 in chips)
ANTES/BLINDS
NoSelfcontrol posts blind ($3), purebIonde posts blind ($6).

PRE-FLOP
evileyes. bets $18, gentilakarte folds, benno b. calls $18, NoSelfcontrol bets $64, purebIonde folds, evileyes. calls $49, benno b. calls $49.

FLOP [board cards A,8,5 ]
NoSelfcontrol checks, evileyes. checks, benno b. bets $176.40, and is all-in, NoSelfcontrol bets $525.05, and is all-in, evileyes. folds.

TURN [6 ]

RIVER [7 ]
SHOWDOWN
NoSelfcontrol shows [ Q,A ]
benno b. shows [ 4,4[] ]
benno b. wins $556.80.


Texas Hold'em $2-$4 NL (5 max) (real money)

Seat 1: woelf ($222.80 in chips)
Seat 2: Shurik.N ($424 in chips)
Seat 3: 1ockw00d ($469.30 in chips)
Seat 6: NoSelfcontrol [ K,K ] ($407.60 in chips)
ANTES/BLINDS
NoSelfcontrol posts blind ($4).

PRE-FLOP
woelf bets $8, Shurik.N folds, 1ockw00d calls $8, NoSelfcontrol bets $28, woelf bets $60, 1ockw00d folds, NoSelfcontrol bets $375.60, and is all-in, woelf calls $154.80, and is all-in.

FLOP [board cards 9,8,2 ]

TURN [A ]

RIVER [5 ]
SHOWDOWN
NoSelfcontrol shows [ K,K ]
woelf shows [ A,A ]
woelf wins $451.60.



Texas Hold'em $3-$6 NL (real money)

Seat 1: wat0z ($596 in chips)
Seat 2: ange.t ($568 in chips)
Seat 4: NoSelfcontrol [ A,10 ] ($609 in chips)
Seat 8: lacimini ($372.90 in chips)
ANTES/BLINDS
ange.t posts blind ($3), NoSelfcontrolosts blind ($6).

PRE-FLOP
lacimini calls $6, wat0z bets $27, ange.t folds, NoSelfcontrol calls $21, lacimini calls $21.

FLOP [board cards 6,6,7 ]
NoSelfcontrol bets $42, lacimini folds, wat0z calls $42.

TURN [9 ]
NoSelfcontrol bets $84, wat0z calls $84.

RIVER [Q ]
NoSelfcontrol checks, wat0z bets $311, NoSelfcontrol bets $456, and is all-in, wat0z calls $132, and is all-in.

SHOWDOWN
NoSelfcontrol shows [ A,10 ]
wat0z shows [ 7,7 ]
wat0z wins $1220





Spewish/tiltede hænder kom som en naturlig reaktion af dette:/




Texas Hold'em $6-$12 NL (5 max) (real money)

Seat 2: NoSelfcontrol [ K,J ] ($595.75 in chips)
Seat 7: evileyes. ($988.95 in chips)
Seat 8: EnglishRosy ($932.80 in chips)
Seat 9: Parrowskij ($600 in chips)
Seat 10: Josalix ($224.90 in chips)
ANTES/BLINDS
EnglishRosy posts blind ($3), Parrowskij posts blind ($6).

PRE-FLOP
Josalix folds, NoSelfcontrol bets $18, evileyes. folds, EnglishRosy bets $57, Parrowskij folds, NoSelfcontrol calls $42.

FLOP [board cards Q,3,3 ]
EnglishRosy bets $45, NoSelfcontrol bets $195, EnglishRosy bets $408, NoSelfcontrol bets $340.75, and is all-in, EnglishRosy calls $82.75.

TURN [A ]

RIVER [K ]
SHOWDOWN
NoSelfcontrol shows [ K,J ]
EnglishRosy shows [ A,Q ]
EnglishRosy wins $1194.50.




Texas Hold'em $3-$6 NL (5 max) (real money)

Seat 1: NoSelfcontrol [ K,10 ] ($741 in chips)
Seat 3: 123tryants ($782.65 in chips)
Seat 7: turhanc2 ($497.35 in chips)
Seat 9: KavkazLover ($757.55 in chips)
Seat 10: evileyes. ($594 in chips)
ANTES/BLINDS
evileyes. posts blind ($3), NoSelfcontrol posts blind ($6).

PRE-FLOP
123tryants folds, turhanc2 calls $6, KavkazLover folds, evileyes. bets $21, NoSelfcontrol calls $18, turhanc2 calls $18.

FLOP [board cards J,Q,K ]
evileyes. checks, NoSelfcontrol bets $42, turhanc2 calls $42, evileyes. calls $42.

TURN [3 ]
evileyes. checks, NoSelfcontrol checks, turhanc2 bets $180, evileyes. folds,NoSelfcontrol bets $675, and is all-in, turhanc2 calls $251.35, and is all-in.

RIVER [7 ]
SHOWDOWN
NoSelfcontrol shows [ K,10 ]
turhanc2 shows [ J,Q ]




Texas Hold'em $2-$4 NL (5 max) (real money)

Seat 2: PokaQueen84 ($670.20 in chips)
Seat 3: vantheking ($51.80 in chips)
Seat 4: NoSelfcontrol [ 10,10 ] ($539.60 in chips)
Seat 8: onetimepls23 ($472.90 in chips)
Seat 9: -Crayola- ($392 in chips)
ANTES/BLINDS
-Crayola- posts blind ($2), PokaQueen84 posts blind ($4).

PRE-FLOP
vantheking bets $12, NoSelfcontrol calls $12, onetimepls23 folds, -Crayola- bets $23, PokaQueen84 calls $21, vantheking calls $13, NoSelfcontrol calls $13.

FLOP [board cards 3,4,6 ]
-Crayola- bets $100, PokaQueen84 folds, vantheking folds, NoSelfcontrol bets $514.60, and is all-in, -Crayola- calls $267, and is all-in.

TURN [5 ]

RIVER [Q ]
SHOWDOWN
NoSelfcontrol shows [ 10,10 ]
-Crayola- shows [ K,K ]
NoSelfcontrol wins $147.60.
-Crayola- wins $831.




Texas Hold'em $2-$4 NL (2 max) (real money)

Seat 2: NoSelfcontrol [ 9,6 ] ($440 in chips)
Seat 9: hipzelberger ($436 in chips)
ANTES/BLINDS
hipzelberger posts blind ($2), NoSelfcontrol posts blind ($4).

PRE-FLOP
hipzelberger bets $12, NoSelfcontrol bets $46, hipzelberger calls $36.

FLOP [board cards 3,8,9 ]
NoSelfcontrol bets $40, hipzelberger bets $115, NoSelfcontrol bets $347, and is all-in, hipzelberger calls $278, and is all-in.

TURN [6 ]

RIVER [Q ]
SHOWDOWN
NoSelfcontrol shows [ 9C,6C ]
hipzelberger shows [ 8S,8H ]
NoSelfcontrol wins $4.
hipzelberger wins $871.




Texas Hold'em $6-$12 NL (5 max) (real money), hand #P4-94825596-1285
Table Manta, 26 Apr 2009 11:46 PM

Seat 1: Idefix07 ($1081 in chips)
Seat 2: wat0z ($2179.50 in chips)
Seat 3: zorglub666 ($106.50 in chips)
Seat 4: NoSelfcontrol [ A,A ] ($594 in chips)
Seat 7: evileyes. ($902.80 in chips)
ANTES/BLINDS
NoSelfcontrol posts blind ($3), evileyes. posts blind ($6).

PRE-FLOP
Idefix07 bets $12, wat0z folds, zorglub666 folds, NoSelfcontrol bets $47, evileyes. folds, Idefix07 calls $38.

FLOP [board cards 6,7[],K ]
NoSelfcontrol bets $68, Idefix07 calls $68.

TURN [8 ]
NoSelfcontrol checks, Idefix07 bets $155, NoSelfcontrol bets $476, and is all-in, Idefix07 calls $321.

RIVER [10 ]
SHOWDOWN
NoSelfcontrol shows [ A,A]
Idefix07 shows [ 9,J ]
Idefix07 wins $1191.




Texas Hold'em $2-$4 NL (5 max) (real money)

Seat 1: mizar2 ($599 in chips)
Seat 2: Domir200 ($485.70 in chips)
Seat 3: OtheRox ($400 in chips)
Seat 8: NoSelfcontrol [ 10,10 ] ($783 in chips)
Seat 10: turhanc2 ($186 in chips)
ANTES/BLINDS
OtheRox posts blind ($2), NoSelfcontrol posts blind ($4).

PRE-FLOP
turhanc2 calls $4, mizar2 calls $4, Domir200 calls $4, OtheRox bets $28, NoSelfcontrol calls $26, turhanc2 bets $182, and is all-in, mizar2 folds, Domir200 folds, OtheRox calls $156, NoSelfcontrol bets $753 (!!!!!!!), and is all-in, OtheRox calls $214, and is all-in.

FLOP [board cards J,J,A ]

TURN [2 ]

RIVER [4 ]
SHOWDOWN
NoSelfcontrol shows [ 10,10 ]
turhanc2 shows [ 8,8]
OtheRox shows [ K,K ]
OtheRox wins $991.
NoSelfcontrol wins $383.





Poster det ikke fordi det er tuderi, men egentlig mest for at vise, at selvom man føler, at man kan gå på vandet og alt køre, kan det lige pludselig vende. Jeg kunne ikke selv lige få stoppet i går, men heldigvis blev det ikke værre end som .

Har dog valgt lige at tage en god pause, da jeg lige mistede en del af selvtilliden vedrørende poker i denne session.

27-04-2009 18:17 #2| 0

Av grimme setups osv. Alligevel en pæn sjat der kan ryge på de hænder der. Øv

27-04-2009 18:27 #3| 0

avavav.. sick UL

27-04-2009 18:30 #4| 0

... Som taget ud af min hand history de sidste par måneder. Synes dog det er fantastisk godt gået, at du er gået fra NL10 til NL400 uden at opleve nogen deciderede bump på vejen. Respekt for det.

Klamme setups mange af dine hænder men du ryger "kun" ind i 3 deciderede bad beats i de postede hænder... Resten af gangene er du enten meget svag favorit eller laaaangt bagud. Dermed ikke sagt at jeg havde spillet dem meget anderledes... Op på hesten igen og tænk langsigtet.


27-04-2009 18:41 #5| 0

Klamt, men det er dog umuligt at undgå - dog gælder det om at begrænse tabet.

P.S: Du bør slette dit nick, hvis du ikke vil have det ud, men ser frem til at spille mod dig igen :D

27-04-2009 18:56 #6| 0

Hehe, jeg er med. Har været på livstilt i over en måned nu, men det er dog endelig ved at stoppe.

27-04-2009 21:07 #7| 0

fejl

27-04-2009 21:45 #8| 0
OP

@ Annezh

Har omdøbt det sædvanlige Hero til noget mere passende til anledningen:D

27-04-2009 22:03 #9| 0

Ja det er ikke lige så sjovt altid,jeg vandt også meget i en lang periode og fik så et vildt downswing.Når det sker har man ikke lyst til at tale med nogen de næste par dage og alt synes uretfærdigt og nederen.
Men så kommer der upswing igen og så er alt nice igen:)

27-04-2009 22:30 #10| 0

man ved virkelig ikke hvor stort et downswing kan være før man tror det er løgn !

du kan faktisk være vindene i et helt år uden at være super god !

men du kan også være god og bare tabe og tabe i mere en et år. no shit

27-04-2009 23:00 #11| 0

@ Muffies: Jeg kan da så afsløre at dit nick starter med "U" - skal jeg uddybe mere for at bevise, at du har afsløret det? :D

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