Opdate fra DTG

Jeg sidder og spiller DTG og er fint med. Nu vil en fyr købe noget af min action.

Hvordan regner jeg prisen ud for at sikre at jeg ikke bliver hustlet?

PS. Jeg ved det lidt off topic i staking men al intelligensen er jo samlet såååå........ ;o)

EDIT

Tråden er nu blevet til lidt opdate fra touren i stedet

(Samlet pricepool/samlet antal chips)*din stack = Din værdi ved neutral edge.


Edit: Når I er ITM kan regnestykket ændre sig, så skal nok bruge lidt mere info for at give dig en eksakt pris :)

Så i dette tilfælde ser det sådan ud:

(81.070/(52.642*462))*120.337= 200$

ok orty, jeg syntes nok der var noget galt ;o))

Well jeg vil dog ikke sælge men blev lidt grebet af at finde løsningen.

Meh, så simpelt er det ikke.

Et eksempel sat på spidsen:

Du har 50% af alle chips i spil. Det betyder altså IKKE at din teoretiske værdi er 50% af den samlede prize pool, medmindre det er en winner takes all.

Du kan bruge denne side til at tilnærme det
www.jamorfold.com/icm.html?prizepool=450&itm=6&payout=171&payoutlast=22.50&remaining=18&averagestack=3750&playerstack=3000

Tak Beck, det giver lidt mere mening.

Nu er det lige før jeg overvejer at sælge lidt. ;o))

Status?

Stack: largest 596599, smallest 16915, average 171274
Your current position is 40 out of 142
Time bank balance is 60 seconds
in 7 min blinds 4K/8K ante 1K
For more information see Tournament Lobby

Jeg har ca 200k

nick stenbek ???

Det er rigtigt ;o)

Denne sad lige i skabet ;o)

PokerStars Game #35102611491: Tournament #209010497, $10+$1 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level XXX (5000/10000) - 2009/11/08 19:27:57 ET
Table '209010497 513' 9-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: IBluffYou23 (203523 in chips)
Seat 2: Stenbek (201947 in chips)
Seat 3: l3iRdMaN (173832 in chips)
Seat 4: Bucaneermike (166872 in chips)
Seat 5: fugleungen (244208 in chips)
Seat 6: Peter_HH (513677 in chips)
Seat 8: atx_austin (263044 in chips)
Seat 9: ganjeannot (297569 in chips)
IBluffYou23: posts the ante 1250
Stenbek: posts the ante 1250
l3iRdMaN: posts the ante 1250
Bucaneermike: posts the ante 1250
fugleungen: posts the ante 1250
Peter_HH: posts the ante 1250
atx_austin: posts the ante 1250
ganjeannot: posts the ante 1250
Stenbek: posts small blind 5000
l3iRdMaN: posts big blind 10000
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Stenbek [5s 4d]
Bucaneermike: raises 10000 to 20000
fugleungen: calls 20000
Peter_HH: folds
atx_austin: folds
ganjeannot: folds
IBluffYou23: folds
Stenbek: calls 15000
l3iRdMaN: folds
*** FLOP *** [3s 6h Qc]
kkapini is connected
Stenbek: checks
Bucaneermike: bets 10000
fugleungen: calls 10000
Stenbek: calls 10000
*** TURN *** [3s 6h Qc] [As]
Stenbek: checks
Bucaneermike: checks
fugleungen: bets 30000
Stenbek: calls 30000
Bucaneermike: folds
*** RIVER *** [3s 6h Qc As] [Js]
Stenbek: bets 60000
fugleungen: folds
Uncalled bet (60000) returned to Stenbek
Stenbek collected 170000 from pot
Stenbek: doesn't show hand
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 170000 | Rake 0
Board [3s 6h Qc As Js]
Seat 1: IBluffYou23 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: Stenbek (small blind) collected (170000)
Seat 3: l3iRdMaN (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 4: Bucaneermike folded on the Turn
Seat 5: fugleungen folded on the River
Seat 6: Peter_HH folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: atx_austin folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: ganjeannot folded before Flop (didn't bet)

Det gjorde den her så også bare på den traditionelle måde ;o)

PokerStars Game #35102722174: Tournament #209010497, $10+$1 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level XXX (5000/10000) - 2009/11/08 19:30:51 ET
Table '209010497 513' 9-max Seat #4 is the button
Seat 1: IBluffYou23 (199773 in chips)
Seat 2: Stenbek (308197 in chips)
Seat 3: l3iRdMaN (155082 in chips)
Seat 4: Bucaneermike (113122 in chips)
Seat 5: fugleungen (201708 in chips)
Seat 6: Peter_HH (509927 in chips)
Seat 7: kkapini (276061 in chips)
Seat 8: atx_austin (259294 in chips)
Seat 9: ganjeannot (320069 in chips)
IBluffYou23: posts the ante 1250
Stenbek: posts the ante 1250
l3iRdMaN: posts the ante 1250
Bucaneermike: posts the ante 1250
fugleungen: posts the ante 1250
Peter_HH: posts the ante 1250
kkapini: posts the ante 1250
atx_austin: posts the ante 1250
ganjeannot: posts the ante 1250
fugleungen: posts small blind 5000
Peter_HH: posts big blind 10000
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Stenbek [Kh Qh]
kkapini: folds
atx_austin: raises 13456 to 23456
ganjeannot: folds
IBluffYou23: folds
Stenbek: calls 23456
l3iRdMaN: folds
Bucaneermike: folds
fugleungen: folds
Peter_HH: calls 13456
*** FLOP *** [3c 8h Ah]
Peter_HH: checks
atx_austin: checks
Stenbek: checks
*** TURN *** [3c 8h Ah] [5h]
Peter_HH: checks
atx_austin: checks
Stenbek: bets 42578
Peter_HH: folds
atx_austin: folds
Uncalled bet (42578) returned to Stenbek
Stenbek collected 86618 from pot
Stenbek: doesn't show hand
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 86618 | Rake 0
Board [3c 8h Ah 5h]
Seat 1: IBluffYou23 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: Stenbek collected (86618)
Seat 3: l3iRdMaN folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: Bucaneermike (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: fugleungen (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 6: Peter_HH (big blind) folded on the Turn
Seat 7: kkapini folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: atx_austin folded on the Turn
Seat 9: ganjeannot folded before Flop (didn't bet)

Skiftede desværre bord efter denne

PokerStars Game #35102916863: Tournament #209010497, $10+$1 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level XXXI (6000/12000) - 2009/11/08 19:36:02 ET
Table '209010497 513' 9-max Seat #9 is the button
Seat 1: IBluffYou23 (183523 in chips)
Seat 2: Stenbek (365109 in chips)
Seat 3: l3iRdMaN (148832 in chips)
Seat 4: Bucaneermike (133122 in chips)
Seat 5: fugleungen (134458 in chips)
Seat 6: Peter_HH (245410 in chips)
Seat 7: kkapini (573122 in chips)
Seat 8: atx_austin (214588 in chips)
Seat 9: ganjeannot (345069 in chips)
IBluffYou23: posts the ante 1500
Stenbek: posts the ante 1500
l3iRdMaN: posts the ante 1500
Bucaneermike: posts the ante 1500
fugleungen: posts the ante 1500
Peter_HH: posts the ante 1500
kkapini: posts the ante 1500
atx_austin: posts the ante 1500
ganjeannot: posts the ante 1500
IBluffYou23: posts small blind 6000
Stenbek: posts big blind 12000
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Stenbek [7c Ks]
l3iRdMaN: folds
Bucaneermike: folds
fugleungen: calls 12000
Peter_HH: folds
kkapini: folds
atx_austin: folds
ganjeannot: calls 12000
IBluffYou23: calls 6000
Stenbek: raises 60000 to 72000
fugleungen: raises 60958 to 132958 and is all-in
ganjeannot: folds
IBluffYou23: folds
Stenbek: calls 60958
*** FLOP *** [7d 9h Kc]
*** TURN *** [7d 9h Kc] [3d]
*** RIVER *** [7d 9h Kc 3d] [6h]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Stenbek: shows [7c Ks] (two pair, Kings and Sevens)
fugleungen: shows [6s Ah] (a pair of Sixes)
Stenbek collected 303416 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 303416 | Rake 0
Board [7d 9h Kc 3d 6h]
Seat 1: IBluffYou23 (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 2: Stenbek (big blind) showed [7c Ks] and won (303416) with two pair, Kings and Sevens
Seat 3: l3iRdMaN folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: Bucaneermike folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: fugleungen showed [6s Ah] and lost with a pair of Sixes
Seat 6: Peter_HH folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: kkapini folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: atx_austin folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: ganjeannot (button) folded before Flop

Gogogo Jeg railer!!!

@beck

Enig, det er også derfor jeg har editted. Havde ikke lige taget højde for at der jo nok er andre end vinderen, som skal have skillinger :)

Railede også tidligere.. Man skal ikke beskylde Stenbek for at spille for tight i hvert fald :)

Der er kun 9 pladser der er interessante ;o)

Så lige en mere til samlingen fra tidligere i touren. ;o))

PokerStars Game #35102143590: Tournament #209010497, $10+$1 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level XXIX (4000/8000) - 2009/11/08 19:15:50 ET
Table '209010497 513' 9-max Seat #5 is the button
Seat 1: IBluffYou23 (219618 in chips)
Seat 2: Stenbek (203697 in chips)
Seat 3: ottoub40 (33733 in chips)
Seat 4: Bucaneermike (166027 in chips)
Seat 5: fugleungen (282458 in chips)
Seat 6: Peter_HH (269272 in chips)
Seat 7: dailand (286405 in chips)
Seat 8: atx_austin (193561 in chips)
Seat 9: ganjeannot (229819 in chips)
IBluffYou23: posts the ante 1000
Stenbek: posts the ante 1000
ottoub40: posts the ante 1000
Bucaneermike: posts the ante 1000
fugleungen: posts the ante 1000
Peter_HH: posts the ante 1000
dailand: posts the ante 1000
atx_austin: posts the ante 1000
ganjeannot: posts the ante 1000
Peter_HH: posts small blind 4000
dailand: posts big blind 8000
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Stenbek [Qh Ks]
atx_austin: folds
ganjeannot: folds
IBluffYou23: folds
Stenbek: raises 11875 to 19875
ottoub40: folds
Bucaneermike: calls 19875
fugleungen: folds
Peter_HH: folds
dailand: folds
*** FLOP *** [3s 2s 4s]
Stenbek: bets 32000
Bucaneermike: calls 32000
*** TURN *** [3s 2s 4s] [6c]
Stenbek: bets 150822 and is all-in
Bucaneermike: folds
Uncalled bet (150822) returned to Stenbek
Stenbek collected 124750 from pot
Stenbek: doesn't show hand
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 124750 | Rake 0
Board [3s 2s 4s 6c]
Seat 1: IBluffYou23 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: Stenbek collected (124750)
Seat 3: ottoub40 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: Bucaneermike folded on the Turn
Seat 5: fugleungen (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: Peter_HH (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 7: dailand (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 8: atx_austin folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: ganjeannot folded before Flop (didn't bet)

????????

Havde han regnet med et fold her?

PokerStars Game #35103553188: Tournament #209010497, $10+$1 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level XXXII (7000/14000) - 2009/11/08 19:53:09 ET
Table '209010497 174' 9-max Seat #4 is the button
Seat 1: Stenbek (512067 in chips)
Seat 2: nikbisee (473906 in chips)
Seat 3: mainilrules (489498 in chips)
Seat 4: Peter_HH (735394 in chips)
Seat 5: JamT_786 (666736 in chips)
Seat 6: Sazzer (422540 in chips)
Seat 7: KYRATOR007 (268090 in chips)
Seat 8: Irasoln (124274 in chips)
Seat 9: D_Blackman (277932 in chips)
Stenbek: posts the ante 1750
nikbisee: posts the ante 1750
mainilrules: posts the ante 1750
Peter_HH: posts the ante 1750
JamT_786: posts the ante 1750
Sazzer: posts the ante 1750
KYRATOR007: posts the ante 1750
Irasoln: posts the ante 1750
D_Blackman: posts the ante 1750
JamT_786: posts small blind 7000
Sazzer: posts big blind 14000
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Stenbek [Jd Qs]
KYRATOR007: calls 14000
Irasoln: folds
D_Blackman: folds
Stenbek: raises 42000 to 56000
nikbisee: folds
mainilrules: folds
Peter_HH: folds
JamT_786: folds
Sazzer: raises 98000 to 154000
KYRATOR007: raises 112340 to 266340 and is all-in
Stenbek: folds
Sazzer: calls 112340
*** FLOP *** [8d 9c Jc]
*** TURN *** [8d 9c Jc] [3s]
*** RIVER *** [8d 9c Jc 3s] [5d]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Sazzer: shows [8h 8c] (three of a kind, Eights)
KYRATOR007: shows [Jh Qh] (a pair of Jacks)
Sazzer collected 611430 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 611430 | Rake 0
Board [8d 9c Jc 3s 5d]
Seat 1: Stenbek folded before Flop
Seat 2: nikbisee folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: mainilrules folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: Peter_HH (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: JamT_786 (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 6: Sazzer (big blind) showed [8h 8c] and won (611430) with three of a kind, Eights
Seat 7: KYRATOR007 showed [Jh Qh] and lost with a pair of Jacks
Seat 8: Irasoln folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: D_Blackman folded before Flop (didn't bet)

Stack: largest 1004089, smallest 75294, average 412220
Your current position is 24 out of 59

Jeg har 450k.

Tåbeligt spillet!!??!!

PokerStars Game #35103841755: Tournament #209010497, $10+$1 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level XXXIII (8000/16000) - 2009/11/08 20:02:35 ET
Table '209010497 174' 9-max Seat #8 is the button
Seat 1: Stenbek (450817 in chips)
Seat 2: nikbisee (381343 in chips)
Seat 3: mainilrules (484248 in chips)
Seat 4: Peter_HH (730144 in chips)
Seat 5: JamT_786 (776799 in chips)
Seat 6: Sazzer (755380 in chips)
Seat 8: Irasoln (224048 in chips)
Seat 9: D_Blackman (167658 in chips)
Stenbek: posts the ante 2000
nikbisee: posts the ante 2000
mainilrules: posts the ante 2000
Peter_HH: posts the ante 2000
JamT_786: posts the ante 2000
Sazzer: posts the ante 2000
Irasoln: posts the ante 2000
D_Blackman: posts the ante 2000
D_Blackman: posts small blind 8000
Stenbek: posts big blind 16000
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Stenbek [5d 7d]
nikbisee: folds
mainilrules: folds
Peter_HH: raises 22000 to 38000
JamT_786: calls 38000
Sazzer: folds
Irasoln: folds
D_Blackman: folds
Stenbek: calls 22000
*** FLOP *** [7c 6d Kh]
Stenbek: checks
Peter_HH: bets 80000
JamT_786: folds
Stenbek: calls 80000
*** TURN *** [7c 6d Kh] [8c]
Stenbek: checks
Peter_HH: bets 128000
Stenbek: calls 128000
*** RIVER *** [7c 6d Kh 8c] [8s]
Stenbek: checks
Peter_HH: bets 112000
Stenbek: folds
Uncalled bet (112000) returned to Peter_HH
Peter_HH collected 554000 from pot
Peter_HH: doesn't show hand
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 554000 | Rake 0
Board [7c 6d Kh 8c 8s]
Seat 1: Stenbek (big blind) folded on the River
Seat 2: nikbisee folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: mainilrules folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: Peter_HH collected (554000)
Seat 5: JamT_786 folded on the Flop
Seat 6: Sazzer folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: Irasoln (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: D_Blackman (small blind) folded before Flop

Out på denne som nr. 46.

PokerStars Game #35104379817: Tournament #209010497, $10+$1 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level XXXIV (10000/20000) - 2009/11/08 20:17:01 ET
Table '209010497 174' 9-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: Stenbek (185317 in chips)
Seat 2: nikbisee (696140 in chips)
Seat 3: mainilrules (449949 in chips)
Seat 4: Peter_HH (1120302 in chips)
Seat 5: JamT_786 (524755 in chips)
Seat 6: Sazzer (1210428 in chips)
Seat 7: borko75 (942552 in chips)
Stenbek: posts the ante 2500
nikbisee: posts the ante 2500
mainilrules: posts the ante 2500
Peter_HH: posts the ante 2500
JamT_786: posts the ante 2500
Sazzer: posts the ante 2500
borko75: posts the ante 2500
nikbisee: posts small blind 10000
mainilrules: posts big blind 20000
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Stenbek [8s 8h]
Peter_HH: folds
JamT_786: folds
Sazzer: raises 40000 to 60000
borko75: folds
Stenbek: raises 122817 to 182817 and is all-in
nikbisee: folds
mainilrules: folds
Sazzer: calls 122817
*** FLOP *** [Ah 3h 9d]
*** TURN *** [Ah 3h 9d] [Kh]
*** RIVER *** [Ah 3h 9d Kh] [Qs]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Sazzer: shows [Ad 7h] (a pair of Aces)
Stenbek: shows [8s 8h] (a pair of Eights)
Sazzer collected 413134 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 413134 | Rake 0
Board [Ah 3h 9d Kh Qs]
Seat 1: Stenbek (button) showed [8s 8h] and lost with a pair of Eights
Seat 2: nikbisee (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 3: mainilrules (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 4: Peter_HH folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: JamT_786 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: Sazzer showed [Ad 7h] and won (413134) with a pair of Aces
Seat 7: borko75 folded before Flop (didn't bet)

@Orty
Det er underordnet om de er kommet i pengene eller ej.

Hvis vi er 10 fra pengene (eller 100) og jeg har 50% af alle chips har jeg ikke 50% equity. Er vi i pengene har jeg heller ikke 50%

Hej Beck

Jeg har prøvet at regne med de forskellige pause stacks og de resultater der kommer virker altså ikke rigtige?

Er der ikke nogle flere faktorer der skal medtages?