jeg er lidt træt af disse spots og føler mig altid så sick weak.
jeg prøver selv hvis jeg holder esset i farven at skyde folk af, men har ikke rigtig noget våben imod dette spil, og føler jeg bliver spillet for meget tilbage på når der falder scarecards.
eneste jeg kender til villain er at han er set spille overpair og nutflushdraws for stacken ai på flop
B/F turn selvom han flatter et pot checkraise på floppet ?
kalde flop for at se turn an og beholde muligheden for at kalde ned selv hvis der falder kedelige kort ?
PokerStars Game #38082319150: Omaha Pot Limit ($0.25/$0.50 USD) - 2010/01/13 5:45:19 CET [2010/01/12 23:45:19 ET]
Table 'Aetolia X' 6-max Seat #3 is the button
Seat 1: Jrd222b ($50 in chips)
Seat 2: gbnd45 ($56.40 in chips)
Seat 3: sugars123 ($67.40 in chips)
Seat 5: Live21 ($125.45 in chips)
Live21: posts small blind $0.25
usmclax11 leaves the table
versulotti is disconnected
Unguarded joins the table at seat #4
versulotti has timed out while disconnected
versulotti: is sitting out
Jrd222b: posts big blind $0.50
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Live21 [8♥ 7♠ T♥ A♥]
gbnd45: folds
sugars123: calls $0.50
Live21: calls $0.25
Jrd222b: checks
*** FLOP *** [9♠ 6♥ T♠]
Live21: checks
Jrd222b: bets $1.45
sugars123: folds
Live21: raises $4.35 to $5.80
Jrd222b: calls $4.35
*** TURN *** [9♠ 6♥ T♠] [J♠]
Live21: checks
Jrd222b: bets $9.50
Live21: folds
Uncalled bet ($9.50) returned to Jrd222b
Jrd222b collected $12.45 from pot
Jrd222b: doesn't show hand
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $13.10 | Rake $0.65
Board [9s 6h Ts Js]
Seat 1: Jrd222b (big blind) collected ($12.45)
Seat 2: gbnd45 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: sugars123 (button) folded on the Flop
Seat 5: Live21 (small blind) folded on the Turn
plo50 turn spot
Synes det er rimelig standard. Om jeg betaler eller folder afhænger af modstander og den generelle dynamik på bordet.
En ting der er vigtigt i omaha er ihvertfald at man ikke begynder at se spøgelser fordi man ofte fokuserer alt for meget på at villain KUNNE have en bedre handske og at der er begyndt at blive bluffet meget mere i omaha fordi mange spillere stadig føler stor action i omaha næsten altid betegnes som nuts eller second nuts.
postede samme hånd på et us forum, dette lyder faktisk rigtig godt imo
As played, I think you have to fold the turn. Reason being is you completely polarized yourself by checkraising the flop, and now you are at a severe disadvantage in this hand playing it out of position. Not to mention that's the worst card in the deck for you.
Leading the turn is also bad because then we find ourselves in the same spot on the river most of the time except with a bigger pot.
I prefer leading out with this hand on the flop. By leading you accomplish 3 things:
1) You protect your hand and also get value from weaker/drawing hands.
2) You indicate you hit the flop, but your hand is concealed. Opponents wont know if you have a str8, FD, wrap, set, etc..
3) You take control of the pot.
If you checkraise, you're going to get called anyway and on the turn you won't have the nuts anymore if a 6,7,8,9,T,J,Q,K or spade comes. At that point you'll either have to bet into what may be the nuts or check and risk being bluffed or give a free card. Not to mention you'll have to face the same predicament again on the river!
So why build a huge pot with such a vulnerable hand out of position?
Spiller lidt under dig, men jeg kan ikke rigtig se anden mulighed end check/fold? Kan ikke se hvad man kan fortsætte med i det her spot, da det vel rammer hans range rigtig ofte?
Jeg kan virkelig ikke lide din linje.
C/R flop er skidt. Bet/call, evaluer turn er bedre.
Årsagen er, at turn bliver super svær at spille og din hånd er egentlig ikke specielt god selvom du har floppet nuts. Hvis modstanderen vil spille en stor pot mod dig har han enten samme hånd, freeroller dig eller har en bedre hånd.
Fx har du kun 29% mod 89Jx, 20% mod 89JQ, 29% mod nuts + FD, 25% mod nuts + set, 42% mod højere OESD og FD, 37% mod set + FD.
Du flipper mod højere gushot + FD, flipper mod højere wrap, etc.