Ruder Dame ??

Min kæreste er ved at lave en engelsk skriftlig opgave og overskriften heddder Queen of Diamonds
Og den handler om en dame som drikker meget og hendes liv er noget rod osv.

Også spurgte hun mig hvad Ruder dame (Queen of Diamonds) symbolisere?
om det havde noget inden for kort-verdenen???
Hvilket jeg ikke ved noget som helst om
så nogle Bud?

Mvh. TonnyG

Et typisk sæt spillekort har 3 "one eyed picture cards" en dame og to knægte er i profil. Jeg husker ikke hvilken dame, men er det ruder kan det måske bruges som en metafor: den enøjede dame.

Så vidt, jeg erindrer, er ruder konge også altid i profil.

Kongerne repræsenterer Karl den Store, David, Cæsar og Alexander, men damerne er der lidt mere tvivl om. Ruder Dame hedder Rachel, og man mener, at hun repræsenterer enten Jakobs kone eller Agnes Sorel, der var elskerinde til Charles VII.

Der er vist også noget med at suitsne repræsenterer nogle ældre franske samfundsklasser?

ruder er vist aristokraterne
spar er bønderne
klør er soldater?
hjerter er ?

mente de snakkede noget om det i et afsnit af TILT, kan finde det senere...

Don"t you draw the queen of diamonds, boy,
She"ll beat you if she"s able.
Know the queen of hearts is always your best bet.
Now it seems to me, some fine things,
Have been laid upon your table.
But you only want the things that you can"t get.

~Johnny Cash

På de franske kort er:
Spar (Lansespidser)=Aristokrati
Hjerter=Kirken
Ruder=De rige
Klør=Bønderne

En af de store russere skrev vist en ret kendt skæbne novelle som hed "Spar dame" som omhandler en mand hvis liv vist også er noget rod og han begynder at spille kort og får et eller andet mystifysti forhold til spardame. (lidt OT, men det er min 5 cent om emnet)
Tror måske det Pusjkin eller Gogol.

EDIT:Det var Pusjkin og den hedder "Spader Dame"

Kings and Queens


The history of playing cards is a long and lengthy one, dating back thousands of years and spanning the continents to their origins in China. For the purposes of this post, suffice it to say that by the end of the 15th century playing cards were in use across Europe in a form easily recognizable to us today: a deck of 52 cards divided into four different suits. While these suits were initially standardized by nationality, the suits that we"re familiar with - hearts, diamonds, spades and clubs - appeared in France around 1480. Supposedly, each of the suits represented a strata of medieval French society. Hearts symbolized the Church; spades, the State or the aristocracy; diamonds, the merchant class; and clubs, the peasantry.

I"m sure most readers are at least passing familiar with the decks of cards featuring the "most wanted" Iraquis that were issued to U.S. soldiers. However, the practice of identifying specific personages with suited cards is hardly new. Rouen, France was a center of card manufacture in the 1500s, and the Rouen court cards (King, Queen, Jack or Knave) were named as various figures, both historical and mythical.

In Rouen courts, the king of hearts is Alexander the Great. King David, originally depicted with sword and sling is the king of spades, while the king of diamonds is Julius Caesar. Charlemagne, often illustrated holding the orb of Christendom in his left hand, is the king of clubs. Each king can also be seen to represent one of the main sources of Western civilization, with King David symbolizing Judaism, Alexander the Great as ancient Greece, Julius Caesar (obviously) representing the Roman Empire, and Charlemagne the Holy Roman Empire.

The king"s consorts also have specific identities. The queen of hearts is named as the Jewish matriarch Rachel, the mother of Joseph. The queen of spades is the Pallas Athena, Greek goddess of wisdom. The queen of diamond"s name is an obscure one: Argine, an anagram of the Latin word (regina) for queen. Lastly, the queen of spades is Judith, of the Book of Judith.

Kings and queens must have their champions, this the Jacks are all famous warriors. The jack of hearts is La Hire, also known as Etienne de Vignoles and a comrade-in-arms of Joan d"Arc. The jack of spades is Hector, price of Troy, and the jack of clubs is Judas Maccabeus. The jack of diamonds is Ogier the Dane.

Obviously, the Rouen court cards with their specific personages have not carried over fully on to modern Anglo-American playing cards, but there are still traces of this distinctiveness. One-eyed jacks (spades and hearts) are so called because they are depicted in profile, while other face cards are shown in full face.