Sites med bettingtips

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Hey PN!

Jeg er begyndt at bruge mere og mere tid på sportsbetting, og har fulgt med på diversa gratis fora (og et enkelt betalingssite), hvor forskellige eksperter har postet picks. Det er gået ganske fint, og det er jo nemme penge, at følge andres velargumenterede valueodds - og hvem siger nej til nemme penge? Jeg gør i hvert fald ikke... Men selvom det er gået godt, så har jeg jo fået blod på tanden, og kunne godt tænke mig at følge flere sites, hvilket leder mig til mit egentlige spørgsmål:
Kender I til nogle sider/eksperter, som har godt styr på NFL, MLB, NBA og ishockey (både NHL og europæiske ligaer) og evt håndbold og tennis. Det må gerne være sider, som kræver betaling for at få tilsendt picks..

Mvh
Rokamp

10-09-2010 01:43 #2| 0

Betting-RSS har overrasket mig meget positivit og er knaldbillige fordi de lige er startet op, en haandful eksperter og de sender meget velovervejede picks ud med forklaringer.

Hotpunters er rigtig gode ogsaa, der er ingen forklaringer men de har en sindsyg overall ROI og er en af dem jeg har tjent allermest paa.

Du bruger vel blogabet?

10-09-2010 02:15 #3| 0
OP
ROI: 160.36% (9)

Betting-rss skal helt klart undersøges nærmere. Hvor mange picks kommer der ca ud om ugen? :)

Hotpunters... Hmm? Synes jeg har hørt, at de har en rigtig flot ROI (som du også nævner), men at de sender for mange picks ud, og på trælse tidspunkter, så oddset nærmest altid er slashet inden normale mennesker når at spille dem? Kan du be- eller afkræfte det? Hvor mange picks kommer der ca ud om ugen? :)

Havde faktisk ikke set blogabet før nu. Den skal også tjekkes lidt nærmere ud.


Mange tak :)

Flere inputs modtages glædeligt :)

10-09-2010 02:24 #4| 0

Var det ikke en ide, at starte med at skrive de sider du bruger/kender. ? ;)

Iøvrigt bruger jeg lidt betxpert også tipsbladets ekspert. Ellers bruger jeg faktisk min egen erfaring og egne tommelfinger regler. Det har hvertfald givet mig et pænt overskud de sidst fem år. :)

10-09-2010 02:41 #5| 0
OP
ROI: 160.36% (9)

@A-Rod
Det kan jeg godt... :)
Af betalingssites bruger jeg kun et lige pt:
- Football Elite
men overvejer at prøve følgende:
- Shaolin Betting
og/eller
- AH-betting

Ellers kigger jeg ofte på bl.a:
- Spilxperten
- Spelunivers
- Oddsnet
- BettingAdvice


Har lige fundet et site der hedder TennisDeep. Er der nogen som kender noget til dette site?

10-09-2010 14:26 #6| 0
OP
ROI: 160.36% (9)

Dagsbump :)

10-09-2010 16:50 #7| 0
ROI: 83.65% (24)

Lytter med her

10-09-2010 16:52 #8| 0
ROI: 0% (0)

Nu må vi lige have et fredagsbet, der ikke kan undgå at gå hjem.

Kom så !

10-09-2010 17:03 #9| 0
ROI: 93.52% (195)

@tom

Caroline Wozniacki (y)

10-09-2010 17:03 #10| 0

Fredagens picks er IMO Zvonareva +4,5 games..... Har tidligere på dagen ligget i 1,85 hos Pinny. Ved ikke hvad man får det til nu.

Alternativt Clijsters - Williams o/ 21,5 games til odds omkring 1,85 også hos Pinny.

10-09-2010 20:16 #11| 0
ROI: 113.42% (115)

En konkurrent til PN, så må ikke skrive det her.. Men det burde være muligt og google sig til det ;)

Syntes selv de har fine "eksperter" derinde. Mener at de især var skarpe i NFL sidste år..

Om det er den samme "ekspert" der skriver i år, ved jeg dog ikke.

11-09-2010 00:15 #12| 0
OP
ROI: 160.36% (9)

Mindre bettingtips - flere tips til mig :D

Har fået ganske god hjælp so far, men kunne stadig godt bruge flere links og nye sider :)
Lad os se hvad I kan bidrage med :D

11-09-2010 09:35 #13| 0
ROI: 0% (3)

Min Gamle Fætter Chris er en meget skarp herre indenfor Fodbold så her er hans weekend tips.


The Premiership
Everton - Manchester Utd 4.60 - 1.95
Latest odds: home - draw - away It would be typical if Everton came good in this match. Many of us expected Everton to start strongly this season, but it has been the other way around. One meagre point and one goal scored so far after encounters with Blackburn, Wolves and A Villa. Pretty bad, one has to say. They have dominated their matches, but looked toothless upfront. One of their strikers, L Saha, risks missing this match and Yakubu remains sidelined. J Rodwell will also be missing.

M United look just fine, but the W Rooney affair is a case for concern. I read somewhere that Ferguson is thinking about resting Rooney, but this I doubt. M Carrick is new on the United injury list.

Everton have a record of playing their best games against top sides and to kick start their season they must avoid defeat in this match. First and foremost they must prevent United from scoring and then hopefully they will find a way to the United net. Everton not to lose will be my call.

Arsenal - Bolton 1.25 - 14.55
Latest odds: home - draw - away Most of the Arsenal players have been involved in internationals this last week, but this goes for their top opposition players as well. Sagna, Clichy and Diaby for example, all played for France. Van Persie and T Walcott will not be fit to play vs. Bolton, joining Ramsey and Bendtner on the sidelines. Walcott, maybe the best Arsenal player this season so far. Nasri and Denilson could both be available again. New defence man Squillacci could make his debut.

For Bolton their Finnish goal keeper Jaaskelainen will be suspended for this match. Hungarian Bogdan will replace him. Moreno, Spanish U- 21 striker, has just joined Bolton. Arsenal look strong and they are of course likely winners, but the odds will absolutely not do. Did I not tell you, many have been playing for their countries in midweek. No bet.

Fulham - Wolves 1.83 - 5.00
Latest odds: home - draw - away B Zamora, the Fulham international striker, withdrew from the England squad, but there is hope that he will return for this game. Konchesky, defender, has left for Liverpool. S Fletcher is a serious doubt for Wolves. His injury prevented him from playing for Scotland in both their recent games, but he has not been ruled of this clash. Van Damme should return. Both these sides remain unbeaten in the Premiership, but only Wolves have actually won a game. I think that the odds in this match are pretty accurate. Fulham are extremely confident at the Craven Cottage and they will probably win this game, but for betting on the home win the Zamora presence is a must.

Manchester City - Blackburn 1.36 - 11.00
Latest odds: home - draw - away I should think that both M City and Tottenham came to realise in the last round that they will not win the Premiership this season. It takes a lot of character to play a strong league game only days after an European fixture and I fear that this old truth will come back to haunt the new contenders.

C Tevez must be the man to blame for the City loss. You have to be honest and missing an open goal in the first half, when M City were in control of the game, cost City the game. One of the worst, maybe even the worst miss that I have seen on this level. Balotelli will not be fit to play. Blackburn have practically a fully fit squad at the moment. Benjani has joined from Sunderland and the striker could be involved in this match. Very likely home win, but impossible odds.

Newcastle - Blackpool 1.62 - 6.40
Latest odds: home - draw - away Home winner, I almost said, for sure. Newcastle looked the better side away to Wolves in their last match and we all know what they achieved in their only home game this far (6-0 vs A Villa). R Carroll has been a doubt this week, but he will recover in time for this game. For Blackpool it seems impossible to play a defensive game and I expect quite a few goals in this match, with both teams on the score sheet. An over game, in other words. Ben Arfa, Marseille striker, has joined Newcastle and he is definitely better than your average striker. Tiote, Ivory Coast international, has also signed for the club. Two great acquisitions. Sol Campbell is also in contention for this game. Baptiste, Blackpool defender, will miss this match, but M Harewood will be available again. Newcastle to win.

W B A - Tottenham 4.00 - 2.11
Latest odds: home - draw - away All their new signings, Fortune, Odemwingie and Tchoyi, played for WBA away to Liverpool. For this match a fourth new player, P Scharner, could feature. Two regular midfielders could be missing, J Morrison for sure, as he is suspended and G Dorrans for personal reasons. WBA demonstrated a new side against Liverpool. They played a defensive, compact game and they were not far away at all from getting a point. They had to change their away tactics after their 0-6 loss vs. Chelsea.

Van der Vaart could earn his first start for Tottenham in this match. I believe that they have signed just the right man. Central defender M Dawson will be out for a while and their leading striker J Defoe as well. Could be that W Gallas will be making his debut in the Spurs defence vs. WBA. Or fit again Bassong will play. P Crouch should be fit to play, but Pavlyuhenko and R Keane are also offensive alternatives. I do not think that Tottenham will lose this game.

West Ham - Chelsea 11.00 - 1.35
Latest odds: home - draw - away Chelsea cannot complain about their opening games this season. After games with WBA, Wigan and Stoke they will be up against this stuttering W Ham side. Chelsea have yet to concede a goal and I wonder if the Hammers can do anything to change this. I should perhaps not be too negative. W Ham have over the years offered some strong performances at Upton Park and it will happen again. So far however, W Ham have looked like a doomed side and there is nothing that new signing Obinna will be able to do about that. F Lampard and J Terry will probably be fit to play for Chelsea. I cannot make a case for the home win and the odds on the away are a joke. No bet game.

Wigan - Sunderland 2.52 - 3.09
Latest odds: home - draw - away N'Zogbia has not been sold and he will return to play for Wigan in this match. Wigan demonstrated character against Tottenham in their last match. After conceding ten goals in their two opening games they kept a clean sheet against Spurs, even winning the match 1-0. I guess that we have to accept that Wigan will be as erratic as last season. T Cleverley interesting new Wigan player, Di Santo as well. Keeper C Kirkland will be ready to play again.

You wonder if Sunderland will continue to play poorly away from home. Last season they mostly underachieved on their travels and they started this season the same way, losing to WBA 0-1. Too early to say, but I certainly do not trust Sunderland when they are not playing at the Stadium of Light. Trusting Wigan? Out of the question. Asamoah Gyan, former Rennes striker, has signed for Sunderland. The biggest deal for the club since they bought Darren Bent. Gyan is probably as strong as Bent. Onuoha and J Mensah, both defenders, will be ready for this match, but not M Turner. Sunderland look stronger than Wigan, that is one thing, but I will only go as far as the draw here.

Birmingham - Liverpool 3.30 - 2.49
Latest odds: home - draw - away Signing A Hleb, was a great move by Birmingham. The Chile midfielder Beausejour is also a new Brums player, M Jiranek as well. Unfortunately A Hleb will not be able to make his debut in this match. Unbeaten after three rounds of league football and six goals scored, yes, Birmingham continue to surprise in a very positive way.

I have to question the recent Liverpool signings. Are C Poulsen and P Konchesky really the kind of players that Liverpool need? Liverpool always were a footballing side, but these players give new signals. D Kuyt and J Cole will both miss this game. They say that Pacheco could start in this match.

Tricky affair, but I do not think that the home side will lose this match.

Stoke - Aston Villa 2.62 - 3.01
Stoke have been very active on the transfer marker with three pretty good signings this last week. E Gudjohnsen, Mark Wilson and J Pennant will play for Stoke this season. You may think that Gudjohnsen is too old, been around for ages it seems, but he is only 31 years old and he is still a great footballer. Not your average Stoke footballer, Gudjohnsen plays clever, smart football. K Jones and keeper S�rensen should be available for this game. G Houllier is the new Villa coach, but he will not lead his new side for this match. Mc Donald will be in charge a final time. I expect a rather desperate Stoke side to get their first points. Home win.

Serie A
Inter - Udinese 1.41 - 9.89
Latest odds: home - draw - away I guess that Udinese will have to pay for the Inter failure against Bologna. Inter dropped two unnecessary points in their opening game. Maicon is once again a major doubt and Inter will definitely be without the injured T Motta. Udinese lost an evenly matched affair against Genoa 0-1. As they played at home it was of course a big disappointment losing the match. Isla will be suspended for this match and their defender Coda is out injured. Di Natale, Sanchez and Floro Flores can always hurt Inter, but I expect the champions to win the match.

Cagliari - Roma 3.40 - 2.45
Latest odds: home - draw - away Big point for Cagliari in the derby of islands at Palermo. Conti and Agostino will be OK to play again and Cagliari will be at full strength. Nene or Aquafresca will join Matri in the Cagliari front line.

Castellini will replace the injured Riise in the Roma defence and Adriano is not yet fit. Vucinic has not been fully fit lately according to Montenegrin reports and I do not take it for granted that he will play from the start tomorrow. Borriello is ready to come in upfront. The ex - Milan striker has joined Roma. Latest reports indicate that they will all start Totti, Vucinic and Borriello. Coach Ranieri is my man. Roma failed to break down Cesena and they need a three pointer here. X2 game.

Cesena - Milan 7.60 - 1.57
Latest odds: home - draw - away Fantastic bonus point for Cesena away to Roma. Newcomer's luck? Maybe it was, but I liked their forward Giaccherini. They will send out the same eleven for this fixture. Milan started with a bang, outclassing Lecce 4-0 and since then a certain duo, Ibrahimovic and Robinho, have joined the club and I do think that Milan will keep on winning their games for a while. There is no guarantee that these two "egos" will be perfect in the long run for Milan, but for now at least. Key defender Nesta is on their injury list as well as Seedorf. Papastahopoulos in for Nesta. Robinho probably on the bench from the start. Without Nesta the Milan defence is seldom water tight, but my call will nevertheless be the away win.

Brescia - Palermo 3.52 - 2.40
Latest odds: home - draw - away Zebina, the Juventus veteran defender, has joined Brescia, along with another defender Daprela as well. Daprela will be fit to play in this match, but Zebina is not 100% OK. Brescia as a matter of fact miss three injured defenders, Zebina, Zoboli and Mareco. Diamanti will back up Eder and Carracciolo upfront. It looks like Miccoli will be missing again for Palermo. Liverani could not play last week either and he is once again considered a doubt. Maccarone and Hernandez had no luck against Cagliari (0-0). So no Cavani (now Napoli) and no Miccoli.

I do not know where to place Brescia. Their squad looks average, much like the other newcomers, but I tend to respect the newcomers at this early stage of the season. Fact is however that none of the newcomers were able to score a goal in the opening round. Still it is a 1X game for this writer.

Catania - Parma 2.40 - 3.67
Latest odds: home - draw - away For Catania both Augustyn and Llama should be OK for this match and Biagianti will return from his suspension. Paloschi, the Parma forward, is a doubt, but Parma have options with veteran Crespo in goal form in midweek. Parma will probably be unchanged for this game.

Early days, but I expect Catania to rescue their season much the same way as last season, by collecting a lot of home points. They have lost Martinez to Juventus, but they still have Mascara and Maxi Lopez. Parma will probably end up ahead of Catania in the league table but in this particular game I am prepared to back the Sicilians. Home win.

Genoa - Chievo 1.74 - 5.72
Latest odds: home - draw - away Although L Toni was injured in the first half Genoa could win their opening game away to Udinese. Now it looks like Toni has recovered faster than expected and he has an outside chance of being fit for this match. Chico is also a major doubt.

Both the Chievo strikers Pelissier and Moscardelli scored in their win against Catania. Moscardelli is new for the season, but Pelissier is the big Chievo profile year after year. Genoa, so strong at home, with quite a few new quality signings I must say, it certainly looks like a home win.

Juventus - Sampdoria 1.83 - 5.25
Latest odds: home - draw - away Juve were a big disappointment away to Bari (0-1 loss). A bit of a shock for this writer to see Del Piero and new signing Quagliarella as strikers. Surely Iaquinta should be preferred to Del Piero now that Amauri is on the sidelines. Yes, also Martinez is a better alternative than old boy Del Piero. Too bad, also Martinez is out injured. Aquilani could earn his first start on the Juve midfield. Sampdoria miss Tissone, Poli and Sammarco, but they are not regular starters. Juventus will have to settle for a draw in this match.

Lazio - Bologna 1.78 - 5.53
Latest odds: home - draw - away Rather expectedly Lazio lost to Sampdoria. The home side was quite simply in better shape after their two games with W Bremen. Lazio have an interesting squad and I count on them to win against Bologna. Floccari supported by Zarate and Hernanez, should result in more Lazio wins than last season. Bresciano will be available for this match, but another midfielder, Garrido is out injured. Latest reports state that Floccari is a late doubt, with Rocchi ready to step in.

Heroic display by Bologna last week against Inter. They had lost their coach only days before their premiere, but the Bologna players certainly demonstrated that their previous coach made the wrong decision. Their keeper Viviano is considered the Italian number one at the moment. A Ekdal, the Swedish midfielder, will not be fit for this match and Bologna will be forced to make one change. Likely home win, but questionable odds.

Lecce - Fiorentina 3.78 - 2.25
Latest odds: home - draw - away Losing 0-4 to Milan forced an immediate reaction from Lecce. They have signed five new players with at least three of them likely starters in this match. Jeda has joined from Cagliari, Coppola and Rispoli are also ready, but Ofere and Di Michele will have to wait for their debuts. Chevanton was a substitute against Milan, but maybe he will start this time instead of Corvia, supported by Jeda and Piatti.

Fiorentina have to do without the suspended Vargas. Old absentees are Mutu, Jovetic, Gamberini and Santana. Fiorentina looked rather strong against Napoli (1-1), but they seldom have been convincing in their away displays. Now also Vargas is absent. Cerci will probably come in for Vargas.

I do not think that Lecce will lose this match.

Napoli - Bari 1.80 - 5.85
Latest odds: home - draw - away Now that Napoli have sold Quagliarella there is no doubt that Cavani will be their front man. Well, there never was any doubt and that is why they sold Quagliarella. Cavani will be backed up Hamsik and Lavezzi for this match. Yebda and Sosa have just joined the club. Blasi will be suspended for this match. Bari were every bit as strong as last season. Plain to see when they deservedly overcame Juventus. Still they were a formidable home side last season, but definitely more human away from home. Expect Bari to be unchanged for this match. Likely home win.

La Liga
Villarreal - Espanyol 1.82 - 5.10
Latest odds: home - draw - away Backing the home team. Villarreal lost to R Sociedad in their opening game. If you look at the two squads you may say that it was an upset, but Villarreal are real "softies" away from home and they should never be favourites on their travels. At their own place, El Madrigal, Villarreal usually perform like a top side. Marchena made his debut in the Villarreal defence vs. R Sociedad, the two Spanish internationals Capdevila and Senna both featured and upfront the Italian international G Rossi started on his own. For this match their coach is talking about using two strikers, Nilmar and G Rossi, from the start. Oswaldo and Callejon were the leading players when Espanyol defeated Getafe. De La Pena could be included in their squad for this match. Villarreal to win.

Zaragoza - Malaga 2.00 - 4.27
Latest odds: home - draw - away Another home win. Zaragoza really should have defeated La Coruna two weeks ago. They, read M Perez, missed some unbelievable chances in the second half. Could be that Sinama-Pongolle will replace Perez for this match. Lafita probably preferred to J Lopez. L Ponzio is out injured. Malaga have many new players this season and they probably need more time to function as a unit. Too bad that the influential Duda is not yet fit to play. Zaragoza then.

French League
Auxerre - Caen 2.05 - 4.33
Latest odds: home - draw - away Time for the first league win for Auxerre. They are 0-3-1 after four league games, a bit surprising, considering their impressive games against Zenit. They will play against Milan in the Champions League in a few days, but I do not see this big fixture as a concern for the match with Caen. Next week however, in the league, I can see Auxerre struggling. Auxerre are unbeaten in their last twelve home games and they have a fantastic home record against Caen (10-1-0). Caen will be without one of their most important players, Yatabare, who will be suspended tomorrow as well as their defender R Inez. Auxerre to win.

The Championship
Leeds - Swansea 2.31 - 3.40
Latest odds: home - draw - away Pretty decent odds on the home win. Plenty of options for the Leeds coach. He has signed four new players, including A Faye and striker Mc Cormack, some four-five more fit again players are knocking on the door after runs in the reserves. Still we can expect Leeds to start with the same eleven that won at Watford two weeks ago.

Swansea miss their influential midfielder D Partley. Swansea have struggled for points in their away games this far. OK, they should not have lost to Norwich in their last away game, but they did and so far they have scored no away goal. I need Leeds to win this league, but I admit, it will be tough, but for now I am pleased if they will be the winners in this match.

Burnley - Preston 1.75 - 5.27
Latest odds: home - draw - away Home winner. Lancashire derby game this one. So far Burnley have looked much the better side and also squad wise they look superior to Preston. For Burnley Edgar will replace the suspended T Mears in their defence. Fit again defender M Duff and the big man upfront, C Iwelumo should both be available. Preston have no big worries, with W Brown most likely back in contention. Preston have played two away games, lost them both (0-5). OK, the fact that is a derby is a bit of a concern, but I will give my vote to Burnley.

Portsmouth - Ipswich 3.00 - 2.54
Latest odds: home - draw - away So now Portsmouth are outsiders at Fratton Park! I will use this opportunity. There is optimism on the S Coast this week as three, possibly four players will strengthen Pompey for this match.

The sale of T Smith and M Wilson has made this possible. D Kitson and Kanu, both strikers and defender R Rocha will definitely be involved and could be that winger L Lawrence will also be ready. Well, he is ready, but the FA has to OK the deal. Lawrence, former Stoke player. Finally we have some competition in our squad, so says the Pompey coach. Ipswich have some defensive worries with both O'Dea and O'Connor sidelined. I like the odds on the home win.


Chris.

11-09-2010 09:53 #14| 0
ROI: 70.49% (36)

Det går sjældent godt for de sportsbettere som er ude på samtlige kampe i premiere leauge.

Nu han klare sig så godt, er det mærkeligt han ikke har unit's på de forskellige kampe.

11-09-2010 21:28 #15| 0
ROI: 0% (3)

(Nimacos)

Du har ikke læst kan jeg regne ud.

Han anbefaler ikke spil på alle kampene men må siges at ramme godt på dem han har anbefalet i dag til fornuftige odds

Man u til ikke at vinde

Fullham

Wigan uafgjort

11-09-2010 22:58 #16| 0

Hotpunters ROI er baseret paa expekt odds paa tidspunktet picket blev sendt ud, da expekt kun meget sjaeldent er market leader kan du altsaa hente et par solide procent hoejere end dem ved at have et par bookmakere.

Det er meget sjaeldent at man ikke naar et fornuftigt odds, selv kort foer kampstart...De har vel 2-5 picks pr dag afhaengig af hvor meget action der er. Bettingrss har nogle forsk. eksperter og alt efter hvor meget action der er i de forsk. sportsgrene har de en 2-8 picks pr dag

begge kan anbefales, og er godt prissat

12-09-2010 12:24 #17| 0

Er ham fra ekstrabladet stoppet?..

også ville jeg lige høre om det kan betale sig at følge de der betalings sites? og hvor stor indstats + roll er man nød til at have?

13-09-2010 17:11 #18| 0
OP
ROI: 160.36% (9)

@KlausN1
Ja, han er stoppet. Tror han blev afskediget grundet besparelser?

Det kan godt betale sig, at følge med på forskellige betalingssites - hvis de klarer sig fint ^^
Mht indsats + roll er det lidt afhængigt af et par ting, som fx hvor løs BRM du kører med og hvor dyr(e) siden/siderne du er medlem af, er.

14-09-2010 10:30 #19| 0

@Rokamp90

Okay :).. Kunne godt tænke mig at state på den der betting-rss er du også gjort det? og hvad ville du mene man skal have af roll + indsatsning før at man opnår + efter der er betalt de 50 som det koster at få tips :)

14-09-2010 12:49 #20| 0
OP
ROI: 160.36% (9)

Ja, jeg er også lige startet hos Betting-RSS, og mht roll burde man vel kunne regne det ud?

Lad os sige, at de har 100 picks på en måned, med en ROI på 110% (for at gøre det nemmere at regne med).

Med en indsats på €10 pr bet og ROI på 110%, vinder man i gennemsnit 1€ hver gang man better €10? Enig?
Med 100 picks på en måned, vil det svare til, at man vinder €50 (€100 - €50 for medlemsskabet = profit på €50)

Så din bettingsize behøver ikke være vanvittig stor, før det nemt kan betale sig :)

14-09-2010 14:09 #21| 0

Okay super :) det var jo til at finde ud af.

Nu er jeg ikke verdens bedste til matematik men er kommet frem til flg.

2mdr's statistik hos betting-rss:

260 Bets
134 WON / 11 VOID / 115 LOST
Staked: 2426.5
Returned: 2855.65
Profit: 429.15
Yield: 17.68%

så det de kalder yield det vil svare til at være ROI på 117,68 ?

14-09-2010 15:36 #22| 0
OP
ROI: 160.36% (9)

Ja, en yield på 17,xx% = ROI på 117,xx% :)

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