Hej folkens,
Jeg har ikke spillet meget poker på det seneste, da jeg har haft nogle økonomiske problemer og har ikke haft motivationen til at spille. Jeg er dog startet igen, og vil derfor gerne få jeres mening om et par hænder jeg spillede i går. Spillene er shorthanded 6.25$ SNG og en enkelt MTT på stars.
PokerStars Game #33792734609: Tournament #202074244, $6.00+$0.50 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level V (75/150) - 2009/10/08 21:12:45 WET [2009/10/08 16:12:45 ET]
Table '202074244 1' 6-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: chicko59 (2970 in chips)
Seat 2: biddy73 (3100 in chips)
Seat 4: Hero (2930 in chips)
Hero: posts small blind 75
chicko59: posts big blind 150
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Hero 5♥ 6♥
biddy73: calls 150
Hero: calls 75
chicko59: checks
*** FLOP *** K♥ 2♥ A♣
Hero: checks
chicko59: checks
biddy73: checks
*** TURN *** K♥ 2♥ A♣ 7♥
Hero: checks
chicko59: checks
biddy73: checks
*** RIVER *** K♥ 2♥ A♣ 7♥ 6♠
Hero: bets 400
chicko59: folds
biddy73: calls 400
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Hero: shows 5♥ 6♥ (a flush, King high)
biddy73: mucks hand
Hero collected 1250 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 1250 | Rake 0
Board K♥ 2♥ A♣ 7♥ 6♠
Seat 1: chicko59 (big blind) folded on the River
Seat 2: biddy73 (button) mucked Q♥ Q♠
Seat 4: Hero (small blind) showed 5♥ 6♥ and won (1250) with a flush, King high
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PokerStars Game #33792324831: Tournament #202074244, $6.00+$0.50 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level III (25/50) - 2009/10/08 21:04:17 WET [2009/10/08 16:04:17 ET]
Table '202074244 1' 6-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: chicko59 (2870 in chips)
Seat 2: biddy73 (3700 in chips)
Seat 3: mguillaume (1280 in chips)
Seat 4: Hero (1150 in chips)
mguillaume: posts small blind 25
Hero: posts big blind 50
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Hero A♥ A♣
chicko59: folds
biddy73: raises 50 to 100
mguillaume: calls 75
Hero: raises 200 to 300
biddy73: calls 200
mguillaume: folds
*** FLOP *** T♥ 3♠ 2♦
Hero: bets 300
biddy73: calls 300
*** TURN *** T♥ 3♠ 2♦ J♣
Hero: bets 550 and is all-in
biddy73: calls 550
*** RIVER *** T♥ 3♠ 2♦ J♣ T♣
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Hero: shows A♥ A♣ (two pair, Aces and Tens)
biddy73: shows Q♣ J♦ (two pair, Jacks and Tens)
Hero collected 2400 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 2400 | Rake 0
Board T♥ 3♠ 2♦ J♣ T♣
Seat 1: chicko59 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: biddy73 (button) showed Q♣ J♦ and lost with two pair, Jacks and Tens
Seat 3: mguillaume (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 4: Hero (big blind) showed A♥ A♣ and won (2400) with two pair, Aces and Tens
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PokerStars Game #33766203584: Tournament #200031013, $8.00+$0.80 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level VI (40/80) - 2009/10/08 2:13:37 WET [2009/10/07 21:13:37 ET]
Table '200031013 10' 9-max Seat #5 is the button
Seat 1: moneymadlad (2510 in chips)
Seat 2: NYM2009 (2705 in chips)
Seat 3: bigwill0811 (950 in chips)
Seat 4: bigjim65803 (4200 in chips)
Seat 5: honor N.A (1420 in chips)
Seat 6: cheklist (2715 in chips)
Seat 7: Hero (1990 in chips)
Seat 8: EL_JULI1982 (2420 in chips)
Seat 9: erdi7204 (4450 in chips)
cheklist: posts small blind 40
RuniJ: posts big blind 80
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Hero A♦ J♦
EL_JULI1982: folds
erdi7204: folds
moneymadlad: folds
NYM2009: folds
bigwill0811: calls 80
bigjim65803: folds
honor N.A: folds
cheklist: calls 40
Hero: raises 240 to 320
bigwill0811: calls 240
cheklist: folds
*** FLOP *** K♦ Q♥ 6♥
Hero: bets 1670 and is all-in
bigwill0811: calls 630 and is all-in
Uncalled bet (1040) returned to RuniJ
*** TURN *** K♦ Q♥ 6♥ 6♠
*** RIVER *** K♦ Q♥ 6♥ 6♠ 4♠
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Hero: shows A♦ J♦ (a pair of Sixes)
bigwill0811: shows 8♥ 9♥ (a pair of Sixes - lower kicker)
Hero collected 1980 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 1980 | Rake 0
Board [K♦ Q♥ 6♥ 6♠ 4♠
Seat 1: moneymadlad folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: NYM2009 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: bigwill0811 showed [8h 9h] and lost with a pair of Sixes
Seat 4: bigjim65803 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: honor N.A (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: cheklist (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 7: Hero (big blind) showed A♦ J♦ and won (1980) with a pair of Sixes
Seat 8: EL_JULI1982 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: erdi7204 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
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PokerStars Game #33793807923: Tournament #202085253, $12+$1 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level II (15/30) - 2009/10/08 21:36:34 WET [2009/10/08 16:36:34 ET]
Table '202085253 1' 6-max Seat #5 is the button
Seat 1: Fietseties (1420 in chips)
Seat 2: T'villeSlick (1230 in chips)
Seat 3: def eye (1850 in chips)
Seat 4: peppinocox (1335 in chips)
Seat 5: Hero (1440 in chips)
Seat 6: ECruz84 (1725 in chips)
ECruz84: posts small blind 15
Fietseties: posts big blind 30
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Hero A♣ J♠
T'villeSlick: folds
def eye has timed out
def eye: folds
def eye is sitting out
peppinocox: raises 90 to 120
Hero: calls 120
ECruz84: folds
Fietseties: folds
*** FLOP *** K♥ 8♣ 2♠
peppinocox: checks
Hero: bets 210
peppinocox: folds
Uncalled bet (210) returned to Hero
Hero collected 285 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 285 | Rake 0
Board K♥ 8♣ 2♠
Seat 1: Fietseties (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 2: T'villeSlick folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: def eye folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: peppinocox folded on the Flop
Seat 5: Hero (button) collected (285)
Seat 6: ECruz84 (small blind) folded before Flop
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PokerStars Game #33769441144: Tournament #200030973, $5.00+$0.50 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level XV (300/600) - 2009/10/08 4:09:40 WET [2009/10/07 23:09:40 ET]
Table '200030973 19' 9-max Seat #7 is the button
Seat 1: gary4148 (13405 in chips)
Seat 2: march44bc (13894 in chips)
Seat 3: CUBBIES23 (20750 in chips)
Seat 4: WillWinWSOP (12680 in chips)
Seat 5: charitypro (20952 in chips)
Seat 6: Ro Vaak (13905 in chips)
Seat 7: radfrobot (28137 in chips)
Seat 8: ThePablo (5552 in chips)
Seat 9: Hero (28521 in chips)
gary4148: posts the ante 70
march44bc: posts the ante 70
CUBBIES23: posts the ante 70
WillWinWSOP: posts the ante 70
charitypro: posts the ante 70
Ro Vaak: posts the ante 70
radfrobot: posts the ante 70
ThePablo: posts the ante 70
Hero: posts the ante 70
ThePablo: posts small blind 300
Hero: posts big blind 600
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Hero K♠ A♣
gary4148: folds
march44bc: folds
CUBBIES23: folds
WillWinWSOP: folds
charitypro: folds
Ro Vaak: calls 600
radfrobot: folds
ThePablo: folds
Hero: raises 1800 to 2400
Ro Vaak: calls 1800
*** FLOP *** T♣ A♦ Q♣
Hero: checks
Ro Vaak: checks
*** TURN *** T♣ A♦ Q♣ 7♥
Hero: checks
Ro Vaak: bets 3000
Hero: raises 4200 to 7200
Ro Vaak: raises 4235 to 11435 and is all-in
Hero: calls 4235
*** RIVER *** T[c9 A♦ Q♣ 7♥ 9♣
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Hero: shows K♠ A♣ (a pair of Aces)
Ro Vaak: shows 7♦ 7♠ (three of a kind, Sevens)
Ro Vaak collected 28600 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 28600 | Rake 0
Board T♣ A♦ Q♣ 7♥ 9♣
Seat 1: gary4148 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: march44bc folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: CUBBIES23 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: WillWinWSOP folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: charitypro folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: Ro Vaak showed 7♦ 7♠ and won (28600) with three of a kind, Sevens
Seat 7: radfrobot (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: ThePablo (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 9: Hero (big blind) showed K♠ A♣ and lost with a pair of Aces
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PokerStars Game #33767408278: Tournament #200030973, $5.00+$0.50 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level IX (75/150) - 2009/10/08 2:53:18 WET [2009/10/07 21:53:18 ET]
Table '200030973 85' 9-max Seat #3 is the button
Seat 1: bb98 (3787 in chips)
Seat 2: Disney17 (5225 in chips)
Seat 3: Schalk1506 (9485 in chips)
Seat 4: 12eeDe12 (8710 in chips)
Seat 5: Hero (7200 in chips)
Seat 6: sourcrowson (9980 in chips)
Seat 7: aseaward (6546 in chips)
Seat 8: smasher64 (16970 in chips)
Seat 9: SIMONIK302 (13395 in chips)
bb98: posts the ante 20
Disney17: posts the ante 20
Schalk1506: posts the ante 20
12eeDe12: posts the ante 20
Hero: posts the ante 20
sourcrowson: posts the ante 20
aseaward: posts the ante 20
smasher64: posts the ante 20
SIMONIK302: posts the ante 20
12eeDe12: posts small blind 75
Hero: posts big blind 150
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Hero A♣ Q♥
sourcrowson: folds
aseaward: folds
smasher64: folds
SIMONIK302: calls 150
bb98: folds
Disney17: calls 150
Schalk1506: folds
sourcrowson said, "wow"
12eeDe12: calls 75
Hero: raises 400 to 550
SIMONIK302: calls 400
Disney17: folds
12eeDe12: folds
*** FLOP *** A♠ 2♥ A♦
Hero: bets 450
SIMONIK302: calls 450
*** TURN *** A♠ 2♥ A♦ Q♣
Hero: checks
SIMONIK302: checks
*** RIVER *** A♠ 2♥ A♦ Q♣ 3♣
Hero: bets 1700
SIMONIK302: calls 1700
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Hero: shows A♣ Q♥ (a full house, Aces full of Queens)
SIMONIK302: mucks hand
Hero collected 5880 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 5880 | Rake 0
Board A♠ 2♥ A♦ Q♣ 3♣
Seat 1: bb98 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: Disney17 folded before Flop
Seat 3: Schalk1506 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: 12eeDe12 (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 5: Hero (big blind) showed A♣ Q♥ and won (5880) with a full house, Aces full of Queens
Seat 6: sourcrowson folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: aseaward folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: smasher64 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: SIMONIK302 mucked 2♣ 7♣
spiller jeg mine hænder korrekt?
Til en anden gang, så post hænderne i hver sin tråd.. det er langt mere overskueligt.
1)
Fold preflop imo. Call er dog ikk skidt.
Bet turn - Du vil nødig se en ♥ falde på river og du vil gerne ha value fra flushdraws.
2)
Giver den en tand mere preflop, resten er std.
3)
std.
4)
Checker bare floppet bag. Det ser altid skræmmende ud når et perfekt cbet flop bliver checked.
5)
Du slowplayer TPTK på drawish flop ? Don't like ! Bet flop hver gang.
6)
Bet mere på flop, bet turn, bet river. ez game.
Hånd 4: Fold AJo preflop please.
Uden information om villains kan nogle hænder variere hvordan jeg spiller dem.
Floppet hvor du c-better bag afhænger af modstanderen. Er han passiv eller aggressiv på floppet? Hvis passiv så c-better du selvfølgelig og modsat hvis andet.
Og syntes ikke man kan sige du skal folde AJ preflop i 6max OOP. Det ligeledes af modstanderen. Hvis han har en høj fold to 3-bet så 3better jeg her. Dog kan jeg også finde et call frem uden reads.
2 store fejl dog.
Hånd 1 skal du 10/10 gange bette turn da du nødig vil se en ♥
Hånd 4 hvor du checket floppet. Bet 10/10 gange her. At det ændrer håndes udfald tror jeg næppe. Men muligvis kan du således lave et herofold hvis dit c-bet raises.
Overordnet ser det okay ud.
1. Helt fint, spiller den som dig. Et turnbet er dog nok værd at overveje. Fordelen ved at tjekke turn er at vi kommer billigt væk hvis der kommer en hjerter på river, at vi får betaling lettere på river, hvis de andre ikke har hjerter, samt at vi evt. kan få værdi ved at de andre better turn.
2. Helt fint, normalt raiser jeg lidt mere preflop, men når vi er så shorte som vi er, synes jeg det er i orden at tage lidt ekstra risk for at få value som du også opnår.
3. Lidt uenig i din linje her. Tjekker enten selv bag med AJs oop her, og ser floppet an, eller raiser mere comittende i forhold til villain 1s stack med det samme, så han ikke får mulighed for at limpkalde preflop og ramme floppet hvor vi nærmest er tvunget til at cbetpushe uanset hvad. Villain har immervæk kun 12 bb, så AJs synes fin at afgøre preflop, når sbs medlimpen synes ufarlig.
4. Folder preflop, da der ikke er nogen grund til at rode sig ud i noget med ajo på level 2 i en SNG. Som spillet preflop synes jeg også et cbet er oplagt. Når vi har positionen er det manglende cbet fra villain lige så ofte et udtryk for at han opgiver potten, som at han er stærk. Så bedst bare at C-bette og finde ud af det. Cbetter dog nok lidt lavere selv i så fald.
5. Cbetter altid her, både for at beskytte mod draws samt for at få chips i potten.
6. Afhænger nok lidt af villain om jeg spiller den som dig eller bare better løs som Ketelsen foreslår. Synes begge dele er okay, da vi ved metode 2 jo nok kun får god betaling hvis villian har limpet Ax/22.
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Blinds 15/30 full stack, folded til cutoff og du syntes han skal folde AJ preflop????? Langt ude imo, floppet checker jeg dog bare og forventer at folde den hvis ikke hånden improver.
@Iluvpinguinz
Det kan da næppe være +ev at kalde med AJ og folde flop hvis vi ikke rammer det. Og hvis vi rammer er der vel ofte lige så stor risiko for at villain har AQ/AK end noget vi dominerer ala A10/QJ/KJ (på Axx/jxx flop), når han åbner 4 bb på level 2.
Langt bedre bare at holde sig ude af problemer og folde med en marginal hånd som aj på level 2.