Stenbek loyalitetsprogram 17. april - Lidt SM added

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WU

1. pause 2.632 average 11.992 - 2772/2804
Ude som 2873

Brawl

1. pause 1.800 average 3.663
Ude som 1071

Sunday Million

1. pause 11.021 average 10.561 - 1498/5076/?
2. pause 34.366 average 14.175 - 131/4542/990
Out som 3612

Salgstråd er denne www.pokernet.dk/forum/show.asp?tid=243633
17-04-2011 20:02 #2| 0
OP

1. hånd WU

PokerStars Game #60954059810: Tournament #416020016, $200+$15 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level I (25/50) - 2011/04/17 18:59:59 CET [2011/04/17 12:59:59 ET]
Table '416020016 4' 9-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: Imladris1 (10000 in chips)
Seat 2: telltheking (10000 in chips) is sitting out
Seat 3: Stenbek (10000 in chips)
Seat 4: Debilne_Ucho (10000 in chips)
Seat 5: hamazriya (10000 in chips)
Seat 6: vlsd (10000 in chips)
Seat 7: cDShiva (10000 in chips)
Seat 8: martif (10000 in chips)
Seat 9: happyfister (10000 in chips)
telltheking: posts small blind 25
Stenbek: posts big blind 50
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Stenbek [6d 3h]
Debilne_Ucho: folds
hamazriya: folds
vlsd: folds
cDShiva: folds
martif: folds
telltheking has returned
happyfister: folds
Imladris1: raises 50 to 100
telltheking: folds
Stenbek: folds
Uncalled bet (50) returned to Imladris1
Imladris1 collected 125 from pot
Imladris1: doesn't show hand
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 125 | Rake 0
Seat 1: Imladris1 (button) collected (125)
Seat 2: telltheking (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 3: Stenbek (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 4: Debilne_Ucho folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: hamazriya folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: vlsd folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: cDShiva folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: martif folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: happyfister folded before Flop (didn't bet)

17-04-2011 21:02 #3| 0
OP

MEGA skidt første time.

Ude på denne efter pausen.

PokerStars Game #60957242825: Tournament #416020016, $200+$15 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level V (150/300) - 2011/04/17 20:08:08 CET [2011/04/17 14:08:08 ET]
Table '416020016 4' 9-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: Imladris1 (19364 in chips)
Seat 2: Pav_Juli (9925 in chips)
Seat 3: Stenbek (2932 in chips)
Seat 4: Debilne_Ucho (29328 in chips)
Seat 5: Reraiseallin (11450 in chips)
Seat 6: legolas441 (14023 in chips)
Seat 7: Olkku (8650 in chips)
Seat 8: martif (4618 in chips)
Seat 9: Dönig (11425 in chips)
Pav_Juli: posts small blind 150
Stenbek: posts big blind 300
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Stenbek [Qs As]
Debilne_Ucho: folds
Reraiseallin: folds
legolas441: folds
Olkku: raises 300 to 600
martif: folds
Dönig: folds
Imladris1: folds
Pav_Juli: folds
Stenbek: raises 2332 to 2932 and is all-in
Olkku: calls 2332
*** FLOP *** [Ks Jd 2d]
*** TURN *** [Ks Jd 2d] [5d]
*** RIVER *** [Ks Jd 2d 5d] [3c]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Stenbek: shows [Qs As] (high card Ace)
Olkku: shows [8h 8c] (a pair of Eights)
Olkku collected 6014 from pot
Stenbek finished the tournament in 2873rd place
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 6014 | Rake 0
Board [Ks Jd 2d 5d 3c]
Seat 1: Imladris1 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: Pav_Juli (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 3: Stenbek (big blind) showed [Qs As] and lost with high card Ace
Seat 4: Debilne_Ucho folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: Reraiseallin folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: legolas441 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: Olkku showed [8h 8c] and won (6014) with a pair of Eights
Seat 8: martif folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: Dönig folded before Flop (didn't bet)

17-04-2011 22:35 #4| 0
OP

Out

Der var godt nok ikke meget der virkede i dag.

Full Tilt Poker Game #29967437447: The Sunday Brawl (228776964), Table 16 - 60/120 - No Limit Hold'em - 15:31:54 ET - 2011/04/17
Seat 1: I Am Mckiev (5,777)
Seat 3: F4Zi (476)
Seat 4: mestre_urubu (2,355)
Seat 5: jack_nap1er (5,962)
Seat 6: Kokais (3,100)
Seat 7: Stenbek (2,001)
Seat 8: EeeTee2008 (4,450), is sitting out
Seat 9: thawright (2,425)
jack_nap1er posts the small blind of 60
Kokais posts the big blind of 120
The button is in seat #4
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Stenbek [Qd Qc]
Stenbek raises to 240
EeeTee2008 folds
thawright folds
I Am Mckiev calls 240
F4Zi folds
mestre_urubu folds
jack_nap1er folds
Kokais calls 120
*** FLOP *** [5s 7c Jd]
Kokais checks
Stenbek bets 675
I Am Mckiev calls 675
Kokais has 15 seconds left to act
Kokais has timed out
Kokais folds
Kokais is sitting out
*** TURN *** [5s 7c Jd] [4c]
Kokais has returned
Stenbek has 15 seconds left to act
Stenbek checks
I Am Mckiev bets 4,862, and is all in
Stenbek calls 1,086, and is all in
I Am Mckiev shows [Kh Kd]
Stenbek shows [Qd Qc]
Uncalled bet of 3,776 returned to I Am Mckiev
*** RIVER *** [5s 7c Jd 4c] [Ts]
I Am Mckiev shows a pair of Kings
Stenbek shows a pair of Queens
I Am Mckiev wins the pot (4,302) with a pair of Kings
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 4,302 | Rake 0
Board: [5s 7c Jd 4c Ts]
Seat 1: I Am Mckiev showed [Kh Kd] and won (4,302) with a pair of Kings
Seat 3: F4Zi didn't bet (folded)
Seat 4: mestre_urubu (button) didn't bet (folded)
Seat 5: jack_nap1er (small blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 6: Kokais (big blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 7: Stenbek showed [Qd Qc] and lost with a pair of Queens
Seat 8: EeeTee2008 didn't bet (folded)
Seat 9: thawright didn't bet (folded)

17-04-2011 23:17 #5| 0
OP

Jeg er ikke helt tilfreds med at der intet virkede i dag. Jeg syntes ikke jeg kunne spille så meget anderledes i de vigtige pots.

Alligevel kan jeg godt forstå at backers sidder med en lidt flad smag i munden og derfor har de 20% af min action i Sunday Million. Hver anpart har altså 1% af min action som kompensation.

17-04-2011 23:46 #6| 0
OP

1. hånd SM

PokerStars Game #60964910042: Tournament #416020010, $200+$15 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level I (25/50) - 2011/04/17 22:29:58 CET [2011/04/17 16:29:58 ET]
Table '416020010 127' 9-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: crancer (10000 in chips)
Seat 2: chunkykid (10000 in chips)
Seat 3: kveitongaln (10000 in chips)
Seat 4: xsylzl222 (10000 in chips)
Seat 5: jojokent (10000 in chips)
Seat 6: jayjayme (10000 in chips)
Seat 7: the pukkaman (10000 in chips)
Seat 8: Stenbek (10000 in chips)
Seat 9: LuckyLukeAAA (10000 in chips)
chunkykid: posts small blind 25
kveitongaln: posts big blind 50
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Stenbek [7d Qc]
xsylzl222: folds
jojokent: raises 50 to 100
jayjayme: folds
the pukkaman: folds
Stenbek: folds
LuckyLukeAAA: folds
crancer: folds
chunkykid: folds
kveitongaln: folds
Uncalled bet (50) returned to jojokent
jojokent collected 125 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 125 | Rake 0
Seat 1: crancer (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: chunkykid (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 3: kveitongaln (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 4: xsylzl222 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: jojokent collected (125)
Seat 6: jayjayme folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: the pukkaman folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: Stenbek folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: LuckyLukeAAA folded before Flop (didn't bet)

17-04-2011 23:58 #7| 0
OP

For første gang i dag over average! ;o)

18-04-2011 01:02 #8| 0
OP

Ret godt bord jeg har fået mig. ;o)

Men er der andre der har en oplevelse af at folk spiller MEGET mere løst i dag end de andre søndage i de store tours?

Jeg har flere gange kigget om jeg skulle have fået regget til $3 rebuy i stedet for en Sunday Major og hver gang er jeg blevet forundret. Eller tror folk bare at de ikke kan få deres skillinger ud og betragter dem som playmoney?

18-04-2011 01:32 #9| 0
OP

Out i SM efter disse 3 hænder.

Kommentarer modtages gerne.

PokerStars Game #60969505459: Tournament #416020010, $200+$15 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level VI (200/400) - 2011/04/18 0:06:14 CET [2011/04/17 18:06:14 ET]
Table '416020010 127' 9-max Seat #6 is the button
Seat 1: Sanborn12 (4350 in chips)
Seat 2: chunkykid (17725 in chips)
Seat 3: kveitongaln (13591 in chips)
Seat 4: xsylzl222 (5215 in chips)
Seat 5: jojokent (12950 in chips)
Seat 6: jayjayme (10626 in chips)
Seat 7: Vesselman (26700 in chips) is sitting out
Seat 8: Stenbek (36916 in chips)
Seat 9: sllvllasH (23450 in chips)
Vesselman: posts small blind 200
Stenbek: posts big blind 400
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Stenbek [9c 9d]
Vesselman is connected
sllvllasH: folds
Sanborn12: folds
Vesselman has returned
chunkykid: folds
kveitongaln: folds
xsylzl222: folds
jojokent: raises 1200 to 1600
jayjayme: folds
Vesselman: folds
Stenbek: calls 1200
*** FLOP *** [4c Ks 9h]
Stenbek: checks
jojokent: bets 400
Stenbek: raises 1575 to 1975
jojokent: raises 1575 to 3550
Stenbek: raises 1575 to 5125
jojokent: raises 4875 to 10000
Stenbek: raises 4875 to 14875
jojokent: calls 1350 and is all-in
Uncalled bet (3525) returned to Stenbek
*** TURN *** [4c Ks 9h] [Qs]
*** RIVER *** [4c Ks 9h Qs] [Ac]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Stenbek: shows [9c 9d] (three of a kind, Nines)
jojokent: shows [Ad Ah] (three of a kind, Aces)
jojokent collected 26100 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 26100 | Rake 0
Board [4c Ks 9h Qs Ac]
Seat 1: Sanborn12 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: chunkykid folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: kveitongaln folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: xsylzl222 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: jojokent showed [Ad Ah] and won (26100) with three of a kind, Aces
Seat 6: jayjayme (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: Vesselman (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 8: Stenbek (big blind) showed [9c 9d] and lost with three of a kind, Nines
Seat 9: sllvllasH folded before Flop (didn't bet)



PokerStars Game #60969975726: Tournament #416020010, $200+$15 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level VI (200/400) - 2011/04/18 0:16:31 CET [2011/04/17 18:16:31 ET]
Table '416020010 127' 9-max Seat #7 is the button
Seat 1: Sanborn12 (3750 in chips)
Seat 2: chunkykid (17125 in chips)
Seat 3: kveitongaln (16991 in chips)
Seat 4: franciscus67 (8384 in chips)
Seat 5: jojokent (25475 in chips)
Seat 6: jayjayme (11237 in chips)
Seat 7: Vesselman (29415 in chips)
Seat 8: Stenbek (24880 in chips)
Seat 9: sllvllasH (22650 in chips)
Stenbek: posts small blind 200
sllvllasH: posts big blind 400
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Stenbek [Qc 7d]
Sanborn12: folds
chunkykid: folds
kveitongaln: calls 400
franciscus67: folds
jojokent: calls 400
jayjayme: folds
Vesselman: folds
Stenbek: calls 200
sllvllasH: checks
*** FLOP *** [2h 7h 4s]
Stenbek: checks
sllvllasH: checks
kveitongaln: bets 800
jojokent: calls 800
Stenbek: raises 2175 to 2975
sllvllasH: folds
kveitongaln: calls 2175
jojokent: calls 2175
*** TURN *** [2h 7h 4s] [4c]
Stenbek: bets 6475
kveitongaln: calls 6475
jojokent: calls 6475
*** RIVER *** [2h 7h 4s 4c] [Ac]
Stenbek: checks
kveitongaln: checks
jojokent: bets 2000
Stenbek: raises 9600 to 11600
kveitongaln: folds
jojokent: calls 9600
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Stenbek: shows [Qc 7d] (two pair, Sevens and Fours)
jojokent: shows [Qd Qh] (two pair, Queens and Fours)
jojokent collected 53150 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 53150 | Rake 0
Board [2h 7h 4s 4c Ac]
Seat 1: Sanborn12 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: chunkykid folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: kveitongaln folded on the River
Seat 4: franciscus67 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: jojokent showed [Qd Qh] and won (53150) with two pair, Queens and Fours
Seat 6: jayjayme folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: Vesselman (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: Stenbek (small blind) showed [Qc 7d] and lost with two pair, Sevens and Fours
Seat 9: sllvllasH (big blind) folded on the Flop



PokerStars Game #60970383289: Tournament #416020010, $200+$15 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level VII (250/500) - 2011/04/18 0:25:48 CET [2011/04/17 18:25:48 ET]
Table '416020010 599' 9-max Seat #8 is the button
Seat 1: NegPL (8725 in chips)
Seat 2: ferdi123zzz (15400 in chips)
Seat 3: Stenbek (3330 in chips)
Seat 4: MBS1970 (17539 in chips)
Seat 5: koti12 (24440 in chips)
Seat 6: yayjo (12650 in chips)
Seat 7: Akaperion (35914 in chips)
Seat 8: GARYGOS (21800 in chips)
Seat 9: Underdpg321 (10576 in chips) out of hand (moved from another table into small blind)
NegPL: posts the ante 25
ferdi123zzz: posts the ante 25
Stenbek: posts the ante 25
MBS1970: posts the ante 25
koti12: posts the ante 25
yayjo: posts the ante 25
Akaperion: posts the ante 25
GARYGOS: posts the ante 25
NegPL: posts small blind 250
ferdi123zzz: posts big blind 500
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Stenbek [Ah Kc]
Stenbek: raises 2805 to 3305 and is all-in
MBS1970: folds
koti12: folds
yayjo: raises 9320 to 12625 and is all-in
Akaperion: folds
GARYGOS: folds
NegPL: folds
ferdi123zzz: folds
Uncalled bet (9320) returned to yayjo
*** FLOP *** [2c 8h 3s]
*** TURN *** [2c 8h 3s] [6d]
*** RIVER *** [2c 8h 3s 6d] [6h]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Stenbek: shows [Ah Kc] (a pair of Sixes)
yayjo: shows [8s 8c] (a full house, Eights full of Sixes)
yayjo collected 7560 from pot
Stenbek finished the tournament in 3612th place
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 7560 | Rake 0
Board [2c 8h 3s 6d 6h]
Seat 1: NegPL (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 2: ferdi123zzz (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 3: Stenbek showed [Ah Kc] and lost with a pair of Sixes
Seat 4: MBS1970 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: koti12 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: yayjo showed [8s 8c] and won (7560) with a full house, Eights full of Sixes
Seat 7: Akaperion folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: GARYGOS (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)

18-04-2011 02:15 #10| 0

det er self den anden hånd af de tre sidste SM hænder der er mest interessant. Hvilken range sætter du ham på da han caller flop rr? OG hvad tænker du at du kan tvinge ham af på river?
UL med de andre beats

18-04-2011 11:37 #11| 0
OP

Der er en del historik der går forud for den hånd.

Ingen af spillerne er vant til at spille på det niveau og Villian 1 havde lagt sig tidligere når han blev trykket lidt på maven. Villian 2 havde svært ved at lægge store hænder og havde lavet nogle mærkelige riverbet med meget marginale hænder. Og det virkede generelt som om han havde fået HELT galt fat i det med blockbets.

På flop vælger jeg at c/r for at reppe en hånd der har ramt godt på dette flop. Jeg kom billigt med og det kunne sagtens være en SB special. Jeg kunne godt have villian 1 mistænkt for at limpe en ret stor hånd. Da villian 2 caller mit reraise på flop så sætter jeg ham på et draw af en slags eller måske et mellempar.

På turn skyder jeg så igen men ikke et kæmpebet. Bordet parre sig og med den action der var på flop kan det sagtens være et gudekort for mig. De flatter begge igen. Hmm

River er nu afgørende for mit videre engagement i den hånd.

Det er så umiddelbart et halvskidt kort hvis villian 2 floater et A-højt flushdraw.

Da villian 1 så checker også så har han ikke en stor hånd. Nu vælger villian 2 så at lave et gayraise i position?!?

Nu går mine overvejelser så på hvilken hånd gør han det med?

Ville han lave så lavt et valuebet med en monster? Det tror jeg ikke han er god nok til.
Ville han valuebette et blankt A? Måske, men mon ikke han vil syntes at showdownvalue tæller højere?
Ville han forsøge at bluffe med så lavt et bet? Ikke meget sandsynligt, men måske.
Kunne han tro at han er bedst med et mellempar? Måske. Sammenholdt med hans tidligere spil kunne det give mening. Det ville også give mening hvis hans par var lille nok og han gerne ville skubbe villian 1 af hans formodede større par. Men betsize virker mærkelig.

Og så er vi tilbage ved hvad jeg gør for at vinde den hånd?

Den største fejl er nok at jeg ikke sender 11k af sted fra front på river. Jeg var dog lidt nervøs for at det A kunne hjælpe en af dem. Derfor checker jeg og ser tiden an.

Jeg kan ikke calle da der er alt for mange af deres hænder der slår mig. Så den eneste mulighed er at raise.

Nu får jeg så villian 1 på mellemhånd så han er ikke aktuel i hånden mere. Så er vi tilbage ved villian 2 og her vurderede jeg at mit play så tilstrækkelig stærkt ud til at han ville smide selv halvsvage A og helt sikkert alle mellempar.

Det viste sig så at være en MEGET forkert vurdering og derfor kommer det til at se meget skidt ud.

Det der er interessant er hvor går det galt for mig?

18-04-2011 14:16 #12| 0

Well, jeg kommer ikke så meget herinde længere, men vil da godt lige give mit besyv med på hånden.

Synes det er fint at complete SB hvis de andre to er nemme at spille af postflop - ellers så mucker jeg bare i sådan et spot, da du let kan komme i problemer.

Jeg forstår slet ikke dine tanker postflop - er det for value eller som bluff du c/r flop og better turn?

Jeg vil i det her spot klart leade floppet (som jeg ville med en masse random air derhar mulighed for at samle equity op på turn/river) da det ikke er et specielt fedt spot for os at spille en bloated pot OOP med 2 mand bagved os, med dybe effektive stacks, på et connected board, hvor cirka alle kort er scarecards.Hvad tror du villains ranges er på turn? Jeg kan ikke rigtig se hvad du opnår ved dit turnbet medmindre at du er ret sikre på deres tendenser, fordi når du better turn er du tvunget til at c/c alle blanke rivers (esset kan nok godt diskuteres).

Lige umiddelbart virker det ikke rigtig som om at du har den store plan med hånden, men whatever, måske er det mig der er off - jeg spiller ikke så mange tours længere ;)

18-04-2011 14:59 #13| 0
OP

Kommer med bemærkninger til dit indlæg senere asktips.

Har for sjov lagt den ud i analyse men som om det er en m8 der er villian 2. Mest for at se om det er et spil der kan laves mod regs i en tour. Har jo fundet ud af at det ikke er et spil mod mere uerfarne spillere. ;o)

Jer der kender hånden herfra bedes undlade at afsløre noget i analysetråden, please.

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